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(R-18) Drawing practices & floor plans
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After being bombarded by rendering for a whole month, last week I decided to take a small break and do exercises not heavily relying on values. I'll resume doing paintings this week so don't worry, there will be at least one painting reward this month.
Months ago I had mentioned that I want to do more exercise of (sex) scene drawing; similar to comics, but focusing more on compositions and body language, and less worrying about the story and panel plans. After that post, more attempts were put to finalize those drawings, but I felt there were something missing. I always struggled to finalize them even though I'm okay with drawing everything in perspective.
Before doing anything further, I made a floor plan:
I'm not sure if there are more effective ways to make floor plans and if you do know, please share! I prefer drawing from above with perspective. (playing The Sims will help a lot) After the planning, I roughly drew random scenes from different camera angles to examine the result. I found it's better to just draw a room in a simple square/rectangle shape so it's easier to set cameras and not get blocked by walls. So the A plan is discarded. Instead of planning a nice room, I planned a cheap motel room in B and C (C is the fixed/simplified version of B). The cheap and dirty rooms fit better in this situation (especially for Dante).
Last week, I had an assumption that maybe I should not 'ink' my drawings. Ironically I've spent more than a decade made doujins, and still, the step of 'inking' has been the part made my drawings suffered the most. So I want to find an alternative way to finalize them. Here are some tests:
In these tests I kinda prefer E, but I want to make them more graphical. So here are two more (shameless) tests:
Graphical enough, but the first one took too much time to finish. The second one seems a bit more promising, taking less time and might be easier for more complex compositions. I'll make more tests of completed scenes this month if I have spare time. Thank you for watching 😘
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被一整個月灰階練習轟炸過後，上週我進入渾渾厄厄昏昏欲睡狀態，於是決定稍微休息一下，從畫灰階改成回來畫線稿(這算休息嗎)，頭三天因為手感盡失&還是不會上墨線的關係，反而覺得更累了。總而言之咧這帖子就是繞回來談談畫線稿(或者說漫畫分鏡？)的一些感想。
去年十月我曾說我想練習一些隨機的蛋朵床戲場景(咳)，弄個分鏡或把人物構圖透視什麼的弄出來都還沒問題，但接下來的步驟卻讓我卡了很久。這中間到底是少了哪片拼圖？當時我開始自問「我到底清不清楚自己想要的畫面長什麼樣子」。後來繼續思考這問題時，我知道在構思的當下、自己腦子裡其實已經有很清楚的畫面，有人物、有光影、有透視、有場景，但問題是試圖畫出來的過程會得到悖離想像的結果，而且越試著完稿、那結果就差得越遠。
在試著解決完稿的難題之前，還有一個問題要解決，那就是背景要長什麼樣子？
於是我搞了幾個平面圖，我習慣從上方視角畫平面圖，但仍然會帶透視進去，如果玩過模擬市民的話對這種視角應該會覺得很熟悉XD平面圖大致完成後，我會在一旁再隨機畫幾個不同視角的場景，測試背景在漫畫分鏡中呈現的效果。測試之後發現整個房間形狀越接近簡單的長方形、效果其實越好，因為比較容易安排攝像鏡頭。因此過於不規則的A平面圖就被捨棄。B和C平面圖就單純用比較規則的方形，另外也把場景的點子從比較體面的旅館、改成廉價摩鐵套房，因為後者和經常收入慘淡的蛋丁可能比較搭，然後再隨機畫幾個打砲分鏡當測試(欸)
接著就要面對最痛扣的環節：到底要用什麼方式完稿。上週我做了一個假設：我得捨棄「上墨線」這個步驟。雖說我過去的同人誌都會上墨線，但多年畫下來，我很難不去認為、數位媒體的「墨線」處理程序其實只是某種把畫面清理乾淨的步驟，而線條品質、作畫中的視圖效果會嚴重受限於硬體的解析度、繪圖軟體的引擎和優化程度等等，明明該會畫的東西都差不多會畫了，怎地墨線稿就是這麼醜。總之我決定把上墨線步驟先丟到一旁，另外找其他方式做測試：
E測試結果似乎比較好，因為有多花一點時間整理線稿。但感覺還是缺乏層次，而且瑣碎的線條太多。於是以下又有兩個寡廉鮮恥的測試：(因為很恥不想重貼一次，結果已經附在上半部)
若是畫無腦官能漫、這兩個測試會比較接近我想要的成果。上方測試基本上已經很接近painting了，但很難處理更複雜的構圖。下方測試花的時間較少、可能也比較容易套用在更多種分鏡，之後有機會會再畫幾個比較完整的構圖測試下去。雖然我對他們的愛不只是想看他們打砲，但我目前好像只知道怎麼畫打砲(抹臉)希望總有一天能把這些技能延伸到劇情漫上面...！
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仔細想想我的技能好像都是針對畫官能漫畫在強化的樣子(摸下巴
出這種畫風的官能漫一定買來收藏！！！（爆
Ah you just remind me I had an account on floorplanner dot com! Haha even myself forgot about it. 😅 Also thank you for suggesting roomsketcher! I just found the free choice on floorplanner is limited and roomsketcher seems much better for a free user.
Thank you! Like you suggest, I use google and pinterest for reference ;D Years ago I learned SketchUp, and then realized drawing by hand is much faster XD. Drawing by hand is not very precise, but acceptable if it is only for manga. Though I remember seeing some doujin artists using SketchUp to render the background, it seems a solution if people are having trouble drawing in perspective.
K T
*covers fountaining nose with one hand while giving you thumbs-up with the other* I found an online thing at planner dot roomsketcher dot com. It uses Flash, but seems to have what I think you're looking for?
Wow. 😍♥️ I like plan b, better. I haven't done a room planing before. So I don't have any ideas. But maybe go with a theme of your scene. Or do a Google search on the certain room that you want. Also I always wanted to do a room planning but I never knew how to do one. Also keep it up! 👍
