Leakoo
Mortish from patreon
Mortish patreon

Dark Maiden Translations [Prelude, Night II] + Excerpt

🕑 Added 2025-06-01 00:22:48 +0000 UTC

Comments

Mortish

The structure definitely doesn't parallel well with real life languages, the only one I can think of is literary Turkish and even then it's uncommon and would sound very formal. I mostly use it because it's easier for me to not overcomplicate things. The apostrophe in 'vir along with all apostrophes you encounter in Wyransith are pronounced with a short, soft pause. It's almost imperceptible when speaking quickly, but more pronounced when speaking slowly (or angrily).

El Hays

YAY WYRANSITHHHHHH!!!!!! I'm proud I was able to decipher some of these sentences before the translations! And I'm glad to have confirmation that "'vir" is indeed the imperative suffix. I'm curious- is the apostrophe pronounced as a glottal stop, or is it just cosmetic? Or something else? For that last sentence: It's interesting that the embedded clause comes after the main verb, even though it can be considered the object! The only SOV language I know well enough to discuss is Japanese and that would put the verb at the end always, and then usually drop the pronoun, so the order is "(embedded clause serving as object) (object marker) (verb)." But you can also insert a subject at the beginning: "(subject) (subject marker) (embedded clause object) (object marker) (verb)." And I *think* you can then front the embedded clause - kinda like how you had occasional OSV in Wyransith - but I've never seen it before. That would be "(embedded clause) (object marker), (subject) (subject marker) (verb)." (The comma seems important here to me but then again my Japanese knowledge is not that deep.) But it seems like Wyransith's word order might be more flexible than more strictly SOV languages like Japanese. It definitely gives me more to think about!

Mortish

Valdricht has very high standards, whereas Serax has an all-that-matters-is-that-I'm-understood style. The older Valdricht has gotten, the less he's kept up with the various world languages. Particularly in the past few centuries when he's lived mostly in Nazralt.

Scorpiuscircus

- Look away 🚫 - Keep staring 🚫 - Get your binoculars ✅ (Sorry not sorry 🤭) Also that's a fun tidbit about Serax vs Val when it comes to languages! Is Serax is bad at other languages he has picked up as he is at shadespeak or does Val just have Very High standards? Also, does Val just have a sort of grandma philosophy of 'no, I am not using this useless devil invention 😤' aka old people disliking learning newer stuff beyond the scope of what they have learned throughout their life when it comes to languages or does he dislike them because it doesn't come as easy to him as he likes? 🤔


More Creators