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Red Riot - Chapter 29 - The cost of advancing

🕑 Added 2024-11-29 19:00:06 +0000 UTC

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Astra

Welp damn there is no way he can win against Orochimaru right now. Maybe not for a looooong time given that dude still lived in Boruto -_-

Astra

To Genjutsu Matsu is still just a bug lol

elph

im surprised gengetsu hasnt killed him yet. the SI is more talented, charismatic, and younger than him

The Oblivious Elf

Just realised the anbu recruit who smelt Shoto was Sad Suki

FunnyHats

I'm excited for the exam not for any single location that it could be at but who could be attending the exam. Hiashi, Hizashi, and Mikoto already got bingo book mentions and are around the age of the protagonist who is mentioned as being the youngest Chunin of the village system so far. Networking with potential future important figures in other villages is a important skill for a potential future Mizukage.

Verdauga

Ohoho

Alex Horsey

Okay we know the hidden miss has the three tales and the six tales. Where are they? Who are they in? And what’s the question? Will to Matsu have to fight one of them? Stopping one into escaping or putting ceiling one them into his own child or what’s the deal what will happen to the there who will he choose like do he goes with the same options or choose different people

ParoxysmDK

I agree, characters shouldn't necessarily revolve around the mc. But a mentor role is different. They are in the very literary sense (if you simplify) a tool to progress the mc in certain ways. And that is exactly what i was getting at. If she becomes pregnant, not only does it remove almost any tension for her as a character (none of us wants to see a pregnant woman get killed, captured, tortured etc. not that we would normally want that if she weren't, but the point is that any kind of surprise tension is impossible, since Viva would get crucified by the fans ^^ jk). It also makes both her and her child chips on the board; that any enemy of Matsus could potentially cash in. While making her mentor role very difficult to write properly because of the setting. I also agree with her lack of resistance and as i told Viva i think a PoV shift to Akiko would alleviate that, but i was actually more focused on Matsus lack of reaction.

Anonykor

I think Akiko should do things without her relationship with Matsu being the deciding factor. Yeah, a pregnancy would be setback but I find it annoying when every character's motivation revolves around the main character. That being said, I pretty much agree with everything you said. Getting pregnant would take her off the board and give bad actors another possible lever of control over her. I don't think she will, though. Being told to do this by a clan shinobi, friend or not, is a regression of her arc based on her backstory. At most, she'll go through the act and use contraception. I also agree that her resistance wasn't portrayed well in the chapter, a few extra lines showing annoyance or resistance would have done wonders.

ParoxysmDK

Housethunderbird, no offense but I honestly don't know how to respond properly to your reply. There is simply so much i disagree with. And so much you haven't considered when you formulated your reply. But I'll say this: Look at how real life military is . A woman is less desirable than a man as a soldier, simply because of the fact that they are a potential drain on the military coffers; IF they get pregnant on duty. Especially for soldiers on front lines, or on active combat duty. This of course depends on the position, situational status etc. But there is a reason why military is predominately male. And this is part of it afaik. I would also like to explain how, and why a pregnant woman in a darker naruto setting, set in one of the most dangerous hidden villages, with dangerous clan politics, with a psychopathic kage as leader (who has an unhealthy fascination with the mc, and has already indirectly threatened the mc's students) is a liability. But i won't. Because it seems pretty easy to think of an explanation for that.

ParoxysmDK

I also think it's rather unkind of Imef to assume my opinion about Akiko's role. While not possessing proper reading comprehension. So I'll help clarify for your benefit. Her role is LITERALLY Matsu's mentor. Which is essentially a teacher, a helper, and source of inspiration, but way more personal and emotionally invested in their student. It can sometimes even end in more. So I'm not reducing her role in any way. I also wrote that she was one of my favorite characters, and that the chapter had changed that opinion. So again, i am not reducing her role to anything. I wrote that I would personally like more PoV's with Akiko, and the reason for that is she feels incomplete as a character. We don't actually know her motivations. But we can guess. Finally, both you and housethunderbird assume that Matsu's plans involve stuff years into the future. But you kind of forget that he is the same age as most genin at this point. The fact that he is almost on the level of a peak chunin/early Jonin at his age, and the amount of power progression he has had in a handful of years. Means that I find it HIGHLY unlikely that we're talking about stuff that far into the future. But this is just my assumption of course.

Imef

I also think it's rather unkind of Paroxysm to reduce Akiko's role in the story to "Matsu's helper". Let's not forget she's her own person, and entitled to her own decisions and happiness. Would it be a life-changing event to be the next Mizukage's mentor? Yes. Is that something you should bet your entire future on? Hell no. Even if it came to fruition, it's still several years off in the future at the least.

King_Under

Thank you for the chapter and thanks the platinum member for the extra chapter! I thought Matsu range was 10 Km but its now lowered to 5 and 7 km is it cause hes in a shinobi village with more chakra signatures? Also happy to see the rest of the crew making serious moves in their careeer and it would be hilarious if Matsu members have to have his classmates in the chunin exam. Looking forward to the next chapter

SailorOfHouseThunderBird

I don't think Akiko getting knocked up with a Bloodline kid is really as terrible as you think it seems to be(if that's even what is happening). Yes a child is technically a vulnerability for her, but if she brought a bloodline into the village, that would also boost her clout within the village. She'll still be able to train Matsu for the next 4 months or so without issue, and then might he hindered for the next 6 or so months. But if she stays as a fulltime shinobi, she won't be impeded permanently. The 4 months should be enough to get Matsu to his jonin promotion around the chunin exams anyway, and boosting her overall clout with a bloodlines birth would better position her to help matsu than anything else she can probably do right now anyway. Matsu needs to plan for the long term here, 1 pregnancy isn't going to hinder his 10 year plan.

NJ

Im so curious as to How strong can and will you plan on having Matsu be when he is in his early to mid 20s. He is clearly well on his way to S class/Kage Level by his early to mid teens(15-17) and he is going to have just obscene levels of chakra capacity (and otherworldy pinpoint chakra control to go with it) when he reaches his prime, couple that with all his foreknowledge on all the OP techniques from the original series that he can and will attempt to reverse engineer and or enhance upon and he should be near or outright the strongest shinobi in the world in a decade's time(if he gets out the other side alive and in one piece I mean lol)

john stockley

I think deplomacy is very possible here. They have complimentary missions. Just let akiko get banged up and then konoha can get to work without the added trouble of dealing with a mist jonin supported by a chunin and the equivalent of a specialist jonin.

ParoxysmDK

Thanks for the reply. 1. The problem with all of that reasoning, is that only you as the author is aware of any of it. The chapter doesn't convey it properly at all. On the contrary, it conveys the opposite; hence my strong reaction. 2/3. We know nothing of Yukari or her personality, since she is a completely new character iinm. We also don't know Akiko's thoughts, so we also have to assume, just like Matsu. 4. I can only say that i hope so and that i will; she honestly deserves even more 'screen time' imo. But this chapter very much shows her grabbing the idiot stick, with nothing to show otherwise. Also i forgot to mention this in my original comment: Matsu's reaction is completely disproportional compared to what he theoretically has to assume she means. He should be completely livid, and his mild reaction makes no sense whatsoever. Not to mention him not warning Akiko about foreign and potentially hostile chakra signatures when they're only a 2 man team (Yukiko can't endanger her mission or her baby). Like a bird call or something is all it would take? i still stand by my original opinion that the chapter needs a rewrite though. Even something as simple as a PoV shift to Akiko would help a lot with clarifying what her thoughts are. And with regards to Matsu i dunno. Might be wise to just chalk it off as a major mistake on his part and go with it. That he makes mistakes helps with him not turning in to a gary stu down the line ^^.

Viva01

Yeah this is very much implied but there was very limited time for anything to really be communicated. 1) Matsu is assuming (rightly so from context and what imformation is being given to him) that is what the secondary objective means and not something else. Akiko had limited time to say/convey anything. Misunderstandings are bound to occur and are the correct conclusion to draw from what has happened. 2) Yukari Terumi was in the wrong as she made the suggestion in a public setting and Akiko had to be like "Fuck alright I'm going with this for the moment but that doesn't mean it will stay that way." 3) Yukari as a clanswoman is used to getting her way in her friendship. - She thinks she might be doing somehting good for Akiko with this but she is also forgetting that she's had months out of fighting and the plotical scene which can mean a lot with how thigns are moving in Kiri. 4) Rest assured that I have a plan for Akiko and I hope your enjoyment of her will continue as she's not grabbing the idiot stick it was more she was thrown into the hotseat and had to adapt on the fly. - she also does not know about the platoon of Konoha nin up on the nearby mountain.

ParoxysmDK

[I'll start by saying that if i misunderstood Akikos message about the secondary objective, then just disregard the rest of this comment] Tftc. Usually i always love the Red Riot chapters, and think the story and plot is splendidly handled. But this time there is a gigantic and glaring plot hole in this chapter, that i can't ignore. Akiko decides impulsively that it would be a good idea to alter the missions parameters on the spot, not only endangering their other mission(s), Matsu's safety, her own safety, and the potential baby's safety, but she also completely dumpstered any form of meaningful support she could give Matsu for his future plans. Wtf is a pregnant women going to help him with? In every scenario i can think of, she is going to be a liability or at worst an active harm to his plans. Gengetsu can use her as blackmail, or use the child as blackmail. She can't help train Matsu for fear of the growing life inside her, the same goes for missions, or any other activity that would put her at risk. Not to mention she would become a mother, and her child would take priority over everything else, no matter how much of a trained ninja she is, unless she's a monster she won't just give away her child, neither freely, easily or at all. There is most likely a bunch of other examples that could be used, but my point is that this one spontaneous decision is one of the worst decisions she could possibly have made. If she really wanted to hurt Matsu's options and plans for the future deeply, then she chose the best possible way besides getting killed, kidnapped, or used as blackmail. She is essentially a liability for the next 14-16+ years, if she manages to get pregnant after this. My respect for her completely plummeted after this and she went from a favorite of mine, to straight up hoping she is written out of the story after this. I honestly think this chapter needs a rewrite because of this plot hole, it's that egregious to me. (if I didn't misunderstand of course)

Baron of Awesome

“A skill that I was learning was something only I could perform, and since my time was limited, I kept it for those who I felt were the most loyal to me.” Called it.

Wildebranch

Probably not, but if that Ash-guy is at least a little battle-worthy maybe he can be thrown as ablative against him while taking care to get rid of the man. Two for the price of one!

Jamie Evans

I binged 15 chapters of Red Riot and 50+ chapters of Hard Enough in 2 days... What am I going to do now?

Hawk

More than likely. Information is a valuable commodity after all. Doubly so in a world of shinobi

SailorOfHouseThunderBird

Fair point. I guess it could take a while to get that info out of Ame or maybe Iwa.

Jericho Rising

I don't think Matsu has shown any interest in any of the women in his life so far.

Jericho Rising

Don't think matsu has any chance vs orochimaru here.

Jericho Rising

Hear hear!

Jericho Rising

Considering Matsu has one of those eyeballs; I disagree. I am however curious what kind of kekkei genkai ashan possesses.

David Gaddis

Stealing eyeballs is always lame. Never liked the plug and play shenanigans. Good luck matsu, this is only the first mission. Sounds like it's gonna be a busy week!

Hawk

The simple explanation would be that since the war just ended recently and most nations are still operating on mostly closed borders the listing for the three sannin hasn't spread to other nation's bingo books yet. They'll probably get Yugakure's bingo book while they're stealing jutsu, but that likely still won't list the sannin since they're allied with Konoha anyways.

Zeroguard

Damn I thought Matsu was Kushina and Minato's age, teenage Orochimaru means he's only a bit younger than the freaking sannin making this way further back than I thought

Anonykor

This seems like a bit more than he can handle right now. My guess was that he was going to try to arrange an informal alliance because they have the same goal. Problem with that theory is that he has that bounty from the Hyuuga so that's probably not going to happen. I'm looking forward to seeing where this is going because I honestly don't know.

philip

I can't believe teenage orochimaru is on same level as Suikizan Fuguki (samehada wielder). That implies he's A or borderline S class level

philip

What a cliffhanger!!!😭😭

Based_Bass

Agreed. Either Hanahime or Himeko are my guesses. Or maybe Rei.

SailorOfHouseThunderBird

Isn't Orochimaru already considered S class at this point? I could be wrong, but i thought the sanin were considered S class in foreign bingo books after the 3 of them survived Hanzo the Salamander in the second war. Also, while this would obviously be something for the distant future if it ever even happened, im personally kind of hoping that Matsu doesn't ever claim a summoning contract until he's S class or close enough to S class, and goes hunting for the Ryuchi cave in the land of fire. If i remember right, most summoning clans can't use Senjutsu, so that would be one of the very few ways Matsu could use his otherworldly knowledge to achieve Sage Mode. With his Uzumaki heritage and medic nin chakra control, he could probably pull a Boruto and pass their test with flying colors. Un/fortunately once he survived the senjutsu poison and achieved an instant perfect sage mode, he'd probably get thrown into a death match with orochimaru for control of the snake contract, which would be a fun battle to read. Sage Mode, a powerful summoning clan, and a S class kill under his belt would probably do a lot for Matsu's rep just before the third war kicks off. And going into the third war with Orochimaru AND the white fang dead just prior to the actual war would probably change things for the worse for Konoha compared to their cannon history. All the shinobi he would have killed would be free to kill some other konoha nin, sending some huge ripples though the timeline.

Amagendor

Going to by the chamberlain's reaction, Hanahime might be interested in some way.

G 21

Exciting chapter

Amagendor

Even if Orochimaru is "just" a teenager, he was recognized as a prodigy alongside kakashi and Itachi in later Shippuden episodes. Orichimaru is a walking jutsu library. With his strategic position on team Hiruzen he is likely to give covering fire(or any other element really). Plenty of Jutsu for the MC copy. Besides that Hyuga to fuck with is gonna be fun. He managed to beat a Hyuga with basically subpar abilities. Now he has more training, a Jonin in Akiko who taught him all about Konoha Taijutsu and the rasengan. His original Jutsu are mostly pure chacra control, so Orochimaru might have problems reverse engineerig that. I hold no hopes that he can kill Orochimaru, not yet anyways. Shoto joining ANBU is nice. Seeing that Kiri has a different Mask system than Konoha is interesting. Shame I was wrong about the Location of the Chunin exam, but six-six is a weapon master. He can try for sparring to prove strength and boost his capabilities amongst other things. I like the world building for smaller places that are often forgotten in canon. Might still a Konoha reaction with the delegation for the Chunin Exam. I look forward to that backlash!

Skinnybonz

To the Platinum Supporter who fought for us, thank you very much and thank you Viva for the chapter ❤️

Zromak

Absolutely love the story! Clif hanger can't wait for next chapter

Wildebranch

Acquiring more Hyuuga eyes is too dangerous, they are just going to send squads of ANBU again to deny it. Better to content with what he has. The Snake Contract on the other side huehuehue. Though I doubt it.

MaliMi

Well, time to get more eyes I guess.

NinjaShinobi124

Glad Shoto is starting to advance. As a future Kage, Matsu's best friend will one day become Kiri's ANBU commander.

Razorfloss razor

I can see it although I can also see ren although she's probably going to end up with shoto assuming he doesn't die

Nadi_Naps

I'm a simple guy. I see Hyuga and all I can think of is Matsu acquiring more Hyuga eyes. Dude couldn't pull of a bloodline theft like his Sensei is currently, so he will have to do with taking some magic eyeballs instead.

NinjaShinobi124

My bets on a certain Kaguya girl

Razorfloss razor

It's not going to happen but it will be hilarious if he gets a hyuga wife.


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