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Hard Enough - Chapter 268 - Brawly's back!

🕑 Added 2024-10-22 19:00:05 +0000 UTC

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Viva01

huh now there's a contender for one of the Larivatar that I hadn't considered before.

Viva01

Yeah, yeah it would. Brock's now very conscious of this

Ozymandias

Loved the chapter. I think it would be great if Karen had the chance to bond with one of the Larvitar. Maybe introduce him to a Sableye for more dark types.

I_WANT_SOMETHING_ETERNAL

That would be a intriguing perspective! Or how Erica is faring with her gym, and being more social.

Orbnet

Wouldn't a move like destiny bond make this challenge really simple?

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

Okay, I had this whole response typed out that was all "maybe Destiny Bond is OP to offset how hard ghosts are to train? (Because Agatha and Gengar's behavior has implied that ghosts 'prank' frequently... and by that I mean they do assassination attempts all the time. Which would be a nightmare to face/control as a trainer)" But then I looked up what pokemon can learn Destiny Bond, and there are a bunch of non-ghost pokemon that can learn the move (mostly dark and/or poison type). So... idk. Making Destiny Bond OP as a reward for putting up with finding/catching/training a ghost seems balanced. But I don't think it's balanced if the pokemon is, like, Koffing or Quillfish (who seem relatively unproblematic to find/catch/train).

Cedar Haugen

Guess who’s back? Back again? Brawly’s back! Tell a friend

Singa_pore

I think it would be cool to get a perspective from Surge’s daughter - who is a great lens through which to view the effects of those waves. I imagine she has big shoes she wants to fill, and Brock’s actions probably make her want to change how the gym she runs works. Maybe a bit of imposter syndrome too

I_WANT_SOMETHING_ETERNAL

Again, I would love a viewpoint of Kanto's reaction to the changes that Brock has made. His web presence of his gym and all of the content coming out of Pewter. His Season Gym Packages, his lectures that he provides on his website, his rare pokemon, I don't think Oak and the community has made as much as a fuss as they should. Also, what do other Gym Leaders and Lance, heck Johto feel about the changes? He introduced merchandise and contests to Kanto. Brock is the wave and not enough ripples are being seen or felt.

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

Can I put in a request for the Brawly vs Titan fight to be from Titan's POV? Or at least part of it to be Titan's POV?

Phyr

Sure that could happen, but why is destiny bond have such a long duration when other moves like protect or taunt so limited? And if destiny bond is so powerful currently why are ghosts so under utilized? In this current interation 7 haunters would beat 6 dragonites so why is competitive battles not just 6 destiny bond users? (Or 6 endeavor/retaliate + quick attack furrets since that was in a similar boat of why is this not used by everyone)

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

Really liked this chapter. Probably has a lot to do with the start of the Brawly vs. Titan fight which I have been looking forward to ever since it was hinted at a few weeks ago!

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

Karen had an antagonistic relationship with Sabrina prior to showing any interest in Brock. Mostly due to how Karen lost in a (implied to be humiliating) defeat against Sabrina when initially challenging the Safron Gym during her Kanto Gym Circuit. Sabrina wasn't initially antagonistic towards Karen because, quite frankly, she didn't even remember Karen. Which honestly seemed to set Karen off more than the memory of her loss... Anyway, now the two have am antagonistic relationship because Karen needles Sabrina while Sabrina ignores Karen. Sabrina seems to find amusement in Karen's frustration over being ignored. I think it's somehow related to Psychic type dislike for Dark type? It's a little unclear why Sabrina enjoys Karen's frustration, but I don't think it's tied into anything to do with Brock (anymore at least)

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

Maybe the author is going to break the seemingly unbreakable move? Build it up as this insurmountable mountain of a challenge, and have Brock create a versatile yet simple move combo or perfect counter. I mean, Brock is respected as a researcher into new/rediscovered pokemon and respected as a powerful trainer. Why not add to that and have him be respected as a move researcher? Plus, it would be a Major Acomplishment that isn't tied back to his previous life's knowledge.

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

Eh. The Taunt bit was a little awkward, but I would say Agatha being unaware of the effect ghost moves have on Destiny Bond being fine. I mean, Ghost specialists are noted as rare in this world so how often would Agatha actually fight another Ghost specialist? Especially one at her own level? Has she fault *any* Ghost specialists since the war? I mean, yes, she should be more aware of what can break her go-to gambit, but if she's spent the last ~30+ years without seeing anyone come close to breaking it... it's understandable that she might get a little overconfident and assume it's neigh unbeatable. Agatha is old and wise, but not perfect or all knowing.

HonorBound Fate

“Seviper” is extremely misspelled.

Empty Shelf

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Empty Shelf

This chapter really bugged me. Karen lecturing Brock about Taunt was awkward, and feels like a Bandaid fix for broken mechanics. But what really had me cringing was Agatha, veteran, Ghost Trainer, and prominent Destiny Bond user, seemingly never considering the possibility that Ghost Type moves might interfere with Destiny Bond.

Matt H

It is a little surprising for it to, seemingly, be so versatile. Other stories I've read have taken the approach that it's short-lived so trainers need to be skillful with their timing, it takes a lost of energy or stamina to use so Pokemon can't spam it repeatedly, or a combination of both.

Faolen

Think the word is hype.

Phyr

.....why is destiny bond getting even more over powered with what is implied infinite duration without being returned. Meanwhile taunt is situational because of its short duration? So its basically game over for everyone else once brock gets a couple golurk, pallosand or runegregas?

nugitoBambino

if I was doing this, and a mid-level trainer, something like 'leech seed' + 'spore' + poison + protect + giga drain go a long way. Or a butterfree with sleep powder and compound eyes. The point is, that status moves would be essential if you were trying to game this.

nugitoBambino

100%. A couple of other moves would make this cheap he probably excludes. Final gambit and endeavor come to mind. I'm sure there's more. Even something like 'power swap' and other shenanigan moves would quickly make this fall apart if allowed.

Deltoren

"could hearts and empower Titan beyond anything he’d demonstrated in the past." this seems wrong not really sure what is being attempted here

Matt H

I think I missed something. I thought Sabrina initially didn't care for Karen because she was flirting with Brock while they were on a "break". But, now that Sabrina and Brock are dating again I figured things would settle down; especially since I didn't think Karen actually was interested in Brock.

readerdreamer5625

Hence why he's on a level higher than him. But Brawly's growth shouldn't be underestimated, given the sheer amount of progress he has made since Brock first met him. So long as he keeps that up, he will catch up soon to Brock, at least to an Elite Four in terms of level. But at the meantime, he can still keep Brock on his toes so long as circumstances allow, like in the case of this Elite match.

Jericho Rising

Didn't brawley only just get his badges in this region?

Donald Bagwell

Would have too

Anareth

Thinking about it I'd imagine that the rules for the Elite Challenge ban Destiny Bond. Its just too punishing in an artificial 1v6 scenario where you can't swap to counter it.

Donald Bagwell

Thanks!

Kevin Lee

In patreon settings>more>connected apps, link your discord to patreon. otherwise try dm the author

Donald Bagwell

Also someone who Brock can be friendly with and knows will be on the same “level” as him without being an ass that he kinda vetted himself Both he and Sabrina have stated that brawley is on the same level as a potential elite four candidate and with Brock giving him what amounts to a glowing endorsement, from the man who beat a champion, is the #1 ace trainer in indigo, is a major mover/ shaker in terms of political and economic power now from his mega stone investigation business, probably has his work with the G men somewhere in international record and the fact he is the very model of a modern major gym leader? Brawly being a good friend to Brock opens doors. Brawly having that much skill, potential and recognition of skill flings those doors wider. Him most likely doing G man investigation involving Steven probably throwing him and the girls at it as the ones in charge is an entirely different matter. But I can see Steven needing to do something because of aqua and magma and using those three to be the ones in charge of their version of the G men with Drake in charge overall My take on Brawly? When he goes back to hoen I would not be mad, surprised or anything if we got a spin off story following this man Other than that I can see his association to Brock/ Sabrina have people see him similar to how will first appeared before the team rocket thing. He has all his references in a different region. He was trained by chuck, he befriended a dragonslayer and learned from him, but I dont know how that affects his immage overall

Donald Bagwell

Anyone know how to access the discord?

Donald Bagwell

Hell yes! Dude this was awesome start to a fight! The sheer aura these two brutes had must have been amazing! I can see it as a right of passage for trainers looking to join the axe circuit having to do the elite challenge at Brocks! I can also see a superstition or myth forming around that. If you get wasted fully you aren't breaking the 700 place your first year, if you cause some damage 500, bring them to their knees 100, beat him and people will expect you in the top ten by your second year If you ask for a second mon and win again, top ten in a year

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter

readerdreamer5625

Gotta love the rivalry Brock has with Brawly. He's still on a level higher than him, but currently he's the closest one to catching up who isn't in the same tier in the first place like Lance.


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