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Hard Enough - Chapter 264 - Rodeo Round ups!

🕑 Added 2024-10-08 19:00:05 +0000 UTC

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KarmaA

TFTC help ut > help out

fireball77

Aegislash being found in Kanto isn't too crazy to me tbh Aren't they just formed from the souls of warriors who's souls bonded with their swords or something? Arguably you should find Aegislash in any region tbh Though ig in Kanto it'd be a Katana instead of a Great sword or something

Mike

That’s good. Old war base for Rota Kingdom.

Focus Armstrong

Naw, keep predicting, that's part of the fun!

Donald Bagwell

Kaede didn’t make sense to us in the narrative, Karen winning made sense or at least more sense to us. I honestly saw a draw happening. My prediction? Agatha slaps Brock around, he does a slight turn around BUT! Agatha planned it and last second destiny bond that will take out Brock’s last pokemon because Agatha wanted to nominate Brock for her/ Lorelei position. This kinda forces it or for him to at least consider it. Maybe a Yolanda pov with her replacing cannon forest. Etc etc

Donald Bagwell

Rota knight base?

Matt H

All excellent points. However, after Brock (initially) losing to Kaede when I thought he'd win and then beating Karen when I thought he'd lose, it's clear I suck at predicting the outcome of fights these days. So I'll stick to just throwing my hands in the air and seeing what happens.

Donald Bagwell

Alt idea, that Rota noble is one of the dudes Agatha rolled to their side

Donald Bagwell

So I think Brock is mostly thinking: sorry lance these are your monkeys While lance is thinking: yes fuck Brock distracted my monkeys, okay back to the gf spreadsheet list. Now can I add the orange islands to it? That one girl has a seadra?

Donald Bagwell

Okay, fair point. Other points? Brock is seen as a huge ass scientific mind. Agatha is the equivalent to an old guard. Sabrina could be champ if she wanted it (my opinion). Brock, being seen as a Pokemon expert and possible professor who has revived Pokemon might be of interest to fiore as that seems to be the main thing I can think of. If he has shin, don or something with him I can see fiore attempt to have access to the revival machine and crowly for their own. Fiore would either see revival as an abomination or look at non trainer Crowley as the second coming of that time traveling ranger from the anime That's not mentioning Brock being an example of allowing Pokemon to roam free because if they point to the geodude or other varied types as examples then straight up say “SEE LET THEM ROAMING AND BEING IN NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS! STRENGTH OF NATURE” and double standards Agatha is an old guard and someone they should know about. Sabrina? Yeah Sabrina scares them For mega evolution though I can see lance begging Brock and Sabrina to explain it in a press conference and explain the bond, the needed connection and more. Can you imagine the political debate between fiore and the indigo scientists who go over the research papers? Agatha trolling fiore sounds amazing Now here is a new idea. Brock and the gym leaders vs the battle frontier brains. Have each of the brains have matches against the 16 kanto gym leaders. How Erica and the sisters grew, Vasquez and how she stacks up as a gym leader, etc etc Also what better freaking way to announce the battle frontier than having Brock, Sabrina and Price against them. Also best idea for loreli after elite four if lance is still petty? Have her be a frontier brain or the like or maybe replace price so he could be away from lance as one of the brains Either way I am looking forward to seeing them, but also that we HAVE to see Paul and regi soon for that whole storyline

Focus Armstrong

Agatha implied she's at or above Champion level, and is partially holding back to help usher in a new generation. She's also a war Veteran at a level where she's capable of surviving encounters with legendries and is at a level of aura Brock has just began to scratch the surface of. Currently, her protege Karen is undoubtedly Elite four level, however, Agatha is still a step beyond that.

Focus Armstrong

Brother, Agatha saying ‘Go, giratina’ is the same as saying ‘Go, Satan’

Rhett Sellers

Looking forward to the rest of the battle

Mike

My own take: she followed Karen’s footsteps. Found it while chasing mega stones for her pokemon. Or she was looking into decommissioned war bases.

Matt H

We'll see. I expected Brock to lose against Karen, but he, surprisingly, ended up winning by a decent margin. From a pure Type perspective, Agatha should be an easier fight given Titan and Empress than Karen was, but that's counterbalanced by Agatha being significantly more experienced. The way the chapter was written it seems like Brock is set to lose this fight, but it's a little hard to rationalize why Brock should do meaningfully worse against Agatha than Karen considering Karen is intended/expected to replace Agatha in a matter of months at this point.

CentaureHeart

Here's that loss that everybody wanted

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

Fiore: Free your pokemon! Brock: ? Fiore: Break the balls! Brock: Uh... why? They're super useful? Fiore: It's slavery! Brock: *shares a look with Titan in bafflement.* No it isn't? Fiore: SlAvErY!! Brock: I can prove it isn't. Fiore: ?!?!? Brock: If I prove it, you owe me an Ultra Ball. Fiore: Pah! Deal! You can’t prove it! Brock: *deadpan stare at Fiore reps* Brock: *Glances at reporters* You got that? Reporters: Yeah! Brock: Okay Titan, let's get to a field. Don't want to make a mess... *Brock & Titan go to the now empty Rodeo arena* Brock: *loud enough for everyone to hear* Okay Titan. You're going to try and break your Great Ball. Anything goes! No limits! Titan: Why would I want to break my Great Ball?? Brock: If you get past me and succeed at breaking your Great Ball, I'll upgrade you to an Ultra Ball. Titan: Eh, not necessary. But I'll take it. Titan proceeds to fight Brock to break Titan's Great Ball while Brock tries to stop him. Brock really does try. But... human vs Tiranitar on a mission? Winner is obvious even when the pokemon is blatantly holding back. Fiore: This proves nothing! Brock: Titan, well... any of my pokemon really, could have broken their pokeball at any time. *shrug* They chose not to. Fiore: There are locks on pokeballs to keep pokemon trapped inside! Brock: Their are-? hang on. Do you mean the medical emergency locks?!? Those only engage when the pokeball notes that the pokemon inside is in critical condition. They can't even be overwritten or released by the trainer, only medical staff have the key. *haunted look as he recalls his Onix's death* I have... first had experience with that lock. Fiore: What about criminals like Team Rocket?!? They keep pokemon trapped! Brock: Yeah... and it's to overwrite pokeballs to do that. Fiore: *squints* How do you check for that? Brock: You... you do realize that every time a trainer registers for a league event they have to have their poleballs scanned right? And that the pokeballs are checked for overwritten code or glitches that would allow a trainer to lock a pokemon in a pokeball without medical need or the pokemon's consent? Fiore: *Pikachu shocked meme* Brock: Yeah. We do the same thing during *shudders* Registration Season. Fiore: Why did you just shudder? Are you hiding something-! Brock: No. I'm a Gym Leader. Registration Season is when trainers have to verify all new captures, releases, and sales of pokemon they have participated in throughout the year. *whispers* This year is going to be a nightmare.

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

I'm just picturing Fiore reps trying to approach Brock about Pokémon Rights and Brock misunderstands. Brock: I've been *trying* to make them understand their inate right to equality but they just don't seem to understand! Fiore rep: ??? Brock: I give them toys, custom built appartments, individually structured meal plans- Fiore rep: ?!? Brock: But what do they do?!? Fiore rep: ...? Brock: They break into my house to become the family nanny! *Gestures to Nanny Grav* Fiore rep: O.O Brock: Don't get me wrong, Nany Grav is Arceus sent. But the kids broke her pokeball years ago and I only found out ten minutes ago-! Fiore rep: !!! Brock: Not the point. Point is that Nanny never even comprehended that she could have walked out at any time. She straight up insists that leaving for the wilds would be a death sentence! Why does she think the wilds are a death sentence?! It's her natural environment! *Behind Brock, Nanny Grav stops one of the kids from trying to jump off a balcony to see if they could fly.* Fiore rep: I, uh, I don't think she meant it was a death sentence for her... Brock: ?? You mean she was worried about killing other pokemon for survival? *thinking* Yeah, that makes sense. She has a soft heart. *Behind Brock Nanny Grav drop kicks a Rattatta that tried to bite one of the kids. The Rattatta goes so far no one sees where it lands* Fiore rep: Right... kind hearted... Brock: Anyway! How do you get your pokemon to understand they have a right to equal rights?? I can't even get mine to eat at a table unless it's to appease my human sensibilities! Fiore rep: ... this might be outside my paygra- I mean, expertise. I'll get back to you on that.

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

So... anyone else just Not Get Fiore's deal with Pokeballs? Like, they are anti-pokeball but it doesn't really make sense? In the games, sure. You can't exactly ask pokemon in the games "Do you want to be free?" And they can't exactly fight you for their pokeball or freedom. But in the show? Movies? This story? Titan could 100% take Brock down and break his own Greatball to run off into the woods if Titan wanted to. Even if a trainer doesn't ask their 'mons if they want to stay, like Brock has done (see when we first meet Empress and Brock asks Titan if he wants to be released), the 'mon can still leave. Yes, you get pokemon like Forrest's Skarmory or Ash's Charizard. But those are just pokemon who want all the upsides (free food, free Healthcare, plenty of fights) with none of the downsides (having to listen to directions from a midget who is as durable as Styrofoam).

Glitched Knights

Cofagrigus is from Unova

Virtue

I believe it was to somewhat distract Agatha from going hard on Yvonne due to her loss against Brock's gym challenge.

the pyro stick figure 76

Golurks are from Unovan, aegaslash is from Kalos the other ghost from that region are Hoopa, and the ghost tree, and jack-o’-lantern.

Pamela Gillespie

See chapter 199

Thomas Brusilovsky

Well, she sure is opening up with possibly the best ghost type. Especially against someone like Brock. I guess ‘Go, giratina’ is still a bit beyond her.

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

@Rinaldo BUT IS SHE JUST CLAPPING IN THE STANDS THOUGH?!? I mean, Brock noted that they didn't appear to have any barriers setup for this match. And yeah, this is an exhibition match in a location not typically used for matches, but you're saying they don't have some sort of portable barrier? Because Brock and Agatha are both top tier; I highly doubt they will keep kiddy gloves on for *every* move. Seems irresponsible not to have barriers. THEREFORE! I propose that SABRINA is providing the barrier! We've seen her do it before, so why not now? Why not flex on Fiore in one more way? Oh, what's that Fiore? Brock and Agatha don't seem that strong? What about our Psychic specialist over there who is single handedly holding back the power of those S-tier moves from hitting the audience??? Does she seem weak to you? No? Yeah, that's what we thought you'd say. Because Fiore's officials can and will scoff over how "This trainer we have could totally take on your trainer." But no one can argue that Sabrina is THE psychic. And what's scarier: the guy who can punch really hard or the woman who can make you think you're a little teapot for the rest of your life? Brock and Agatha *look* like they're the display for Fiore, but if Viva uses Sabrina as the barrier stand-in? Sabrina is going to be the real threat display.

Pamela Gillespie

Pretty sure Brock suggested it to Agatha as a distraction cause Yvonne was worried about something that would've gotten targeted by Agatha

Michael Ox

Another hype fight so soon! So exciting!!! I think she has aegaslash because of the lineage Agatha has. I imagine she isn't the first ghost type user in her family, and they come into being by having the weapon and over time forming that bond. I think she and her family have probably accidently created it! She mentioned queen of Kanto, the desire to be a ruler, ghost typing, and power, all these things would be what an aigeslash would need to come into being!

Glitched Knights

Golurks came from Kalos? Huh, learn something new. Makes sense with the Giant Death weapon there though

Glitched Knights

Okay, when it came to giving older Pokemon new evolutions, I haven't been keeping much track of WHEN they were given them. Thanks for the tidbit

Rinaldo

Plus his gym leader girlfriend, who is the strongest psychic and was first to mega evolve in a generation and did so in dramatic fashion, is politely clapping the match in the stands.

the pyro stick figure 76

Two things Mismagius and other generation four evolutions have already been shown to us, and are known. Not Unovan Kalos you’re one generation off.

Wildebranch

I think one of the things Agatha is talking about is the Aura sharing that Brock thought of before. With how many Ghosts she have with her, I can only imagine how devastating giving Gengy that much energy would have ment during the War.

Donald Bagwell

Other part is a not so subtle surge buffer. Brock has basically got another surge as soon as a new region opens up Also lets face it. We all want a new freaking lance v Brock fight

Jericho Rising

I almost expected it

Jericho Rising

Definitely feeling the rota line of thought.

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

Fiore being there is 100% a political move by Indigo. It's a "fun" and "safe" event that showcases Indigo pokemon and, oh yeah, HAS A DEMONSTRATION BETWEEN #1 ACE TRAINER AND AN ELITE FOUR MEMBER!!! This is 100% a not-so-subtle flex of Indigo's power and a not-so-subtle threat to NOT break the peace between their countries.

Glitched Knights

If she's so blatantly going to use a Unovan Pokemon, there is no way Brock isn't gonna expect possible Golurks, Cofagrigusi, or Mismagius

Glitched Knights

FUCK UP THE UPITY EXCUSE FOR A GLADIUS BROCK!

HoldTightAndPretendItsAPlan

Brock: Why is Fiore here? *shrug* Not my circus, not my monkeys, and not my problem. Me: Yeah, but it is your neighbor's circus monkeys who have a history of climbing into your yard sooo... probably going to be your problem soon enough

Matt H

Complete long shot: Oak's had the Aegislash for a while since it could sense his leadership. I'm not sure why he would give it to Agatha/let her borrow it now, though. As for where it came from originally, my money's on the Rota Kingdom. It's geographically close enough and had a history of knights, royalty, etc. that fits thematically with an Aegislash.

Singa_pore

And so it begins. Agatha’s Aegislash is interesting! Lets see how this goes haha

John Schultze

Can anyone jog my memory on how this match got set up because of Yvonne?

MaliMi

If there is a match I would not mind Brock losing, it is this one. Especially if Agatha uses some advanced aura techniques.

Rinaldo

Did Agatha just clock that Brock recognized an Aegislash? It's possible it was in the computer they found Gibile in, they never kept going they stopped when they saw the baby and let him out. After that Brock was busy taking care of him and then went home, so he wasn't around if they kept looking. Second idea is Agatha just jammed a Gastly into an old sword.

Jaxer30

If she's talking about using aura In combat, the other battle gimmick that uses it is z-moves. With the Alolan immigrants that we got recently, maybe it's not that crazy of an idea.

Antony Wilson

I love how much of a menace Agatha is

AlecG

Marshadow ftw.

PiezoVolt

The only thing I can think of is she got it from the Roa Kingdom with it either being seen as haunted by natives or underground in ruins. Oh she might have a spirtomb if she has this. Great chapter

MrMarauder

2 of my favourite pokemon battling it out in one of my favourite stories? Exquisite!


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