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Episode 6.5: Devoicing and pitch & one mora words in isolation
🕑 Added 2020-04-27 01:22:57 +0000 UTCBibliography
Japanese Phonetics Index Page
Good evening Patrons!
In this lesson we look at devoicing and pitch in rapid, everyday speech, and also compare the pitch of one mora heiban and one mora atamadaka words when there is no following particle.
As always, if you have any questions or concerns with regard to this lesson, please don't hesitate to leave a comment below. Thank you very much for your continued support, and good luck with your Japanese studies!
Best from Beppu,
DΕgen
Comments
Dogen
Hi, Mike. JP here. I'm not having any trouble on my side, but I'd like to look into this more. To avoid cluttering up the comments section, can you send a DM with more information: What device(s) and operating systems you are using, and what browser(s) or app(s) you've tried (plus what browser plugins you have installed if any)? Thanks, and I'll see you in DMs.
Mike McCarthy
Hey Dogen, JP. From today, when watching lesson videos, accessing them from the Phonetics Index Page, full-screen viewing is no longer available -- even after taking the extra step of switching to Youtube. Theater mode is presented as an option and enlarges the screen slightly, but rewinding for replay in theater mode is thrown out of kilter; it's annoyingly imprecise without the pinpoint control to which I'm accustomed in full-screen mode. Of greater concern, viewing without full-screen mode is quite hard on my eyes. Can you please look into this and advise.
Brodie Port
what is the advanced pitch accent sub series? is that a part of these ~80 videos?
Dogen
My pleasure!
Nathan Vegdahl
Great video with useful information, as always. Thanks Dogen!
Dogen
Hi Arthur! I personally don't believe that there is a preferred pitch, and you'll certainly hear both in everyday conversations (and even I sometimes switch between the two, as both are acceptable in standard Japanese). Because you've already memorized many words following their first dictionary accent I would encourage you to stick with what you've learned, and if you had to choose one going forward, to go with the 'younger generation (accent on devoiced downsteps)' pronunciation. Cheers!
greyface
for someone belonging to the 20-30 age cohort, I wanted to know whether there is a "preferred" pitch to learn when it comes to these kinds of words. As you mentioned, younger people tend to pronounce words as atamadaka that older people might pronounce as odaka. Is this a rule that I should apply to my studies? So far I've already memorized a large number of words following their first dictionary accent.
