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New playlist link (Removed)
🕑 Added 2017-06-30 11:46:57 +0000 UTCHello, Patrons.
I had to take down the playlist because it was being shared to non-patrons; I hope you understand. All lessons, plus some other resources, are available on the index page.
Thank you for your support!
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Good evening Patrons,
I have created a new playlist for Japanese Phonetics, which includes the newest lesson, episode 21. I'll continue to create, rather than update, playlists such that new content stays exclusive to you, the patrons.
I have also updated the video file for lesson 21. Patron Alexandre Smirnov noticed that I mistakenly said 'heiban' where I should have said 'nakadaka' while explaining the exceptions to the い rule. This has been fixed, and I have listed the correct rule below for convenience.
The い rule
Assume that three mora verbs which have some kind of い sound, such as し、き、ち、etc., in their second mora are nakadaka.
Incidentally, the い rule was introduced correctly, and reiterated correctly during the wrap-up in the original video file. Apologies for the confusion; if anyone has any questions with regards to this please don't hesitate to comment.
Finally, in unrelated news I'm moving into a larger place in a couple weeks, so expect a patreon exclusive house tour soon. I'm not usually a fan of this type of video, but I like the new place quite a bit, and think the video will prove to be interesting—especially for those curious about life in Japan. Stay tuned!
Thank you again for the continued support, and I look forward to speaking with you again soon,
Dogen
Comments
Hirotaka Sato
Hi, I noticed that the above Heroku app links to the old, removed version of Lesson 21.
Dogen
Hi John! Thanks for signing up. I'm no longer creating playlists, but you can use this new dashboard tool instead—this is up-to-date and much easier to navigate! (Edit: The Heroku app is no longer available. Use the index page instead: https://www.patreon.com/posts/japanese-index-16489306 ) Thank you again!
John Robert Kanu
Hi Dogen, new patron! Your phonology series is an invaluable resource. I was wondering if there is an updated version of this playlist that includes more episodes? I like to rewatch them a lot, so the playlist format makes that a little easier.
Dogen
Thanks for the input Matt ^^
Matt Anning
Not sure if this is helpful, but pitch accent, and tones as well, are all phonemic, where as stress is prosodic. Big difference!! m
Dogen
Hi Kenny, Thanks for the question. I don't have any formal training with tonal languages such as Mandarin, so my understanding is very surface level—please correct me if I'm wrong! I learned that in tonal languages not only are there multiple pitches (much like the high and low in Japanese), but that there are also multiple types of pitch change. In other words, while Japanese has basically only a basic rise in pitch, a sharp drop in pitch, and a lack of pitch change, many tonal languages will have, for example, a sharp rise in pitch, a sharp drop in pitch, a gradual rise in pitch, a gradual drop in pitch, no change in pitch, etc. Furthermore, I understand that these changes in pitch are often times (usually?) mapped onto each of the syllables of a word, such that words don't exhibit 'accents' in the 'pitch-accent' or 'stress-accent' sense. In other words, rather than having prominence determined by a single, major change in pitch or stress, words will simply exhibit the various changes tones that exist in the phonetic system of the language in question (effectively making them 'accent-less'). Does this answer your question? Again I'm not terribly well versed in this subject so please forgive me if there are any major mistakes in this explanation!
Kenny Song
Hi Dogen, is there a better place to post random questions? I was wondering about the difference between a pitch accent language like Japanese, and a language with tones like Mandarin (my heritage language), as they both utilize the "pitch" of sounds. Is it that tones are more invariant to context? Or that tones are distributed to individual syllables (I'm skeptical of this Wikipedia one-liner because it seems that there are many tonal languages that don't have one-syllable words like Mandarin)? Or something else? I don't have any linguistics background, so was hoping to benefit from yours :)
