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No Victory in Strength (Minecraft Jaune) - Chapter 4

🕑 Added 2024-08-08 20:33:33 +0000 UTC

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Thelurker12

Already watched merryweather Minecraft :)

Eric Hernandez

See merryweather minecraft girl mob

Thelurker12

How could Jaune not see what Weiss was doing?! She was so obvious about it!

HellKnight70

That handkerchief part killed me! XD

Mysterious Benefactor

Yeah Blake’s line of thinking is pretty understandable. She is thinking possible future oppressions can be done against faunus without a safe heaven which in her mind is menagerie which is pretty fair. Though in Weiss’s case I still don’t think Jaune really needs to actually think about delivery, distribution etc. as dust both electricity/petrol equivalent in Remnant. Each nation would happily beg Jaune to just take his dust I don’t think there is a nation in Remnant that won’t take care of distribution etc of Jaune’s dust. Jaune essentially only needs to sell them cheaply or even give it free and we will most likely would see state run logistic companies to essentially take care of the rest. Normally there would be 2 problems with this realistically. First this much power as a monopoly would be danger to nations which would do everything in their power to undermine Jaune with their own domestic production similar to how countries like USA etc. having their own petrol production even if they had ability to purchase it from cheaper from arabian peninsula. But SDC is already a monopoly and they are most likely selling their dust overpriced and bankrupted all their rivals in other markets so realistically for nations of remnant they just prefer a cheaper monopoly. Secondly technically state still can sell dust at high cost which would be problematic as SDC most likely still be bankrupt but SDC monopoly would change to state oligopoly but due to how dust is electricity/petrol of Remnant.I don’t think that would happen too. Because for nations increase in production because of cheap/free dust would always be better that just gaining increased revenue from dust sales. Just from my old factory work I can say if electricity/gas etc. was free our production cost would be down %20 give or take and I don’t take into account logistic costs etc. Because in this case they would be down too. Increase in productivity and industry would be most likely close to first time industrial revolution happened on Remnant. Hell most likely SDC going bankrupt would not make employees suffer much as additional jobs generated by decrease of dust cost would most likely give them new jobs. All people’s utility costs would decrease too. Infrastructure of all Remnant would improve as it would be less costly to send vehicles to far away settlements etc. Only case I think Weiss can realistically help Jaune I think is at the literal first contact with nations etc. but I mean Jaune most likely can stuff a flying tanker etc with dust and send it to Vale and other nations and tell they can get it more from him and they would most likely do all others steps themselves. I did not know you had discord. Yeah I will join it it would be easier to talk than here.

Thelurker12

Yeah, Blake argues that the Faunus NEED a more powerful home nation to call their own rather than being vassals under Jaune. And yes, people will be jealous of Menagerie having Jaune all for themselves, but she considers it a small price to pay. The Faunus are already being discriminated against, hated on, and treated like second class citizens. Having Jaune's help is crucial if they want a chance of gaining a seat on the table of international politics. Jaune could flood the market with cheap dust, sure, but how is he gonna organize that to be taken, give it to retailers, delivered across all four coutries etc etc. That's the point of Weiss. You need someone who knows about organization, networking, trade routes and whatnot. So she'll be the brains while Jaune is the main producer and startup. That and Weiss also wants to give jobs to the people. Jaune doing everything and bankrupting the SDC also makes the employees suffer and causes mass unemployment. Weiss is the one with the business savvy mind. And yeah, both Weiss and Blake are CONVINCED that they're right and that the only way to succeed is under their guidance. Both their narrations hammer in the belief they have that they NEED to be the ones guiding Jaune so he can use his power for the Greater Good. And they need him to prioritize THEIR goals over everyone else. I don't mind long responses, by the way. They're very enjoyable to read. I'm curious, did you get the invite to my discord? Should be easier to discuss there. Yeah, I'll tweak the loan bit later. Maybe have her frame it as wanting to buy something rather than having already bought it.

Yugo Strange

Team war of the rose's personally As others have said Weiss and Blake aren't scummy per say, they're just going about it the wrong way

Mysterious Benefactor

You are absolutely right. I did not explained myself very well. Blake frame her goal prioritizing Faunus betterment. But like you said she specifically wants to help Menagerie because most likely she wants to better Faunus while protecting their pride. But is pride that important if we think about it. Like should it not be faster for Faunus to just migrate Jaune's lands en masse from both Menagerie and other kingdoms. Most likely this would improve their quality of life much faster but they would be in turn at mercy of a human. Would Blake accept if Jaune propose that all faunus to come to his lands to live peacefully under his rule? Blake's ideal is an equal future between humans and faunus which in her mind would not happen if Menagerie is not strong. Which to be fair not exactly a childish thinking because even if Jaune protect faunus as long as he lives what about after can he guarantee faunus would be protected after he dies. Strong Menagerie guarantee that there will be always a safe haven.But would not a Jaune supported Menagerie be envy of other kingdoms what if that said kingdoms want what Menagerie has after Jaune dies could one kingdom stand against 4 maybe it would be better for faunus to have weaker kingdom so they are not a threat. In Weiss’s case yeah Jaune most likely could not manage a corporation especially size of SDC but does he really need to. I mean he is more or less a state run company/city state etc. himself already. Most likely his production capacity especially at dust would most likely bankrupt SDC if he just dump it in international trade. He does not need to manage a corp he is the corp. But of course that also means Weiss would lose her grandpa’s company which both her love/respect for him and pride as a Schnee would not allow. Her ideal is reforming SDC as a something both her and her late grandpa could approve. Yeah she wants betterment of her would be workers and such but would she accept if Jaune propose founding a new company like I don’t know lets say JDC or ADC something like that from his place and just bankrupting SDC and taking its workers to new company. I mean depending on Jaune’s production capability it could be most likely faster than trying to oust Jacques. But could Weiss accept that SDC had to burn to ground for a faster solution. In both cases Weiss and Blake are idealistic and stubborn at their beliefs. They do not want to compromise as they could have try to find a middle ground between both their ideals but they stuck to their guns. A more pragmatist guy could found their approach risky as if they could have compromised and combined their forces they most likely would have more chance to achieve their goal. But they are young and they are idealistic. So they think they are absolutely in the right and try everything in their power to achieve their goals. That is why I said I think this line of thinking more realistic. I was much more idealistic and stubborn while I was in college too. That is why I think their characterization in this story is really solid.They remind me myself and people I met in college. Of course this is how interpret these characters in your story. I mean you are literally the Author they are your characters you know them better than me a reader. I don’t want to seen as a know all presumptuous person. I just wanted to explain why I thought that way on my comment. Note: About loan part I mentioned. I was on mobile before so I could not exactly give location about it: “The second being that loan. The cherished book was back in their temporary room in Jaune's castle. As much as she wanted to read it, she didn't want to reveal her secret habits in front of the rest of the team. That and the 2000 lien debt weighing on her mind. She needed to find a way to pay it back. She couldn't face her parents (one of these days...) with something like that hanging over her head. Even Adam would've been too ashamed to look at her. At least it gave her an opening to broach the topic, "So, Jaune...is there any work you need done?" she asked. Her three teammates looked at her with suspicion. She ignored them all. "Work? Uh, should be stuff around town to do. Why?' "Uh...I bought something. I can't say what it was-" Weiss rolled her eyes, "but it was something I really needed, and I had to take a loan out." "A loan? I thought you were smarter than that, Blake." Yang shook her head. "Oh, how much? I could give it to you if you-" "No, no. Thank you, but...I'd rather earn it for myself." The gears in her head shifted, "But if you're thinking of good causes to be involved in, could I suggest-" "So, Jaune, you were thinking of expanding your kingdom?" Weiss asked in a rush. Blake hissed and looked at the babbling heiress. She did that on purpose. Well, it wouldn't matter. She'd convince Jaune to help her one way or another.” This is before Ruby knocked out. "Maybe I should go with you," Blake said. "Maybe I'll give you something to pay back that loan you took if you stay here," Yang countered. Blake's eyes widened, "H-How did you know that?!" "The guy running the place asked me to keep an eye on you. Wants to make sure you don't just skip town and leave him hanging." She liked Blake, but she wasn't gonna help her dodge a loan. Or drag the rest of their team into it. "You took a loan?" Weiss looked aghast, "I thought you were smarter than that, Blake!" "Sh-Shut up! I needed it for something important!" "Yeah, yeah. Be a good girl and keep an eye on Rubes with Weiss cream and maybe I'll pull you out of that hole you dug for yourself. 'Kay? Bye~" She walked out the door while Weiss lectured Blake about being responsible with cash. Oh, the irony. This is after in both cases they act like they just now heard about loan. But they should know about loan in second case.

Redwing641

amen to thirsty Pyrrah

Thelurker12

Blake wants Jaune specifically helping Menagerie, which he wouldn’t do on his own. Likewise, Jaune may have the Semblance and capital, but he does mot have the business sense to run a company. You could argue Weiss doesn’t either, but she at least is presumably taught and knows how to navigate Atlesian high society. Yeah, I was inspired by Cassia when doing the courtship thing. Especially Weiss just staring right at Jaune. Weiss assumes her intentions are SO obvious so a book isn’t needed. She even brings up how Valeans are all about knights and honor and stuff so Jaune should be seeing the hanky as air traffic signals. I’ll check the loan thing later to make see if it tracks.

Mysterious Benefactor

Q1:Not scummy per se but yeah compared to others their efforts seems less genuine on love front and more materialistic. Their goals are pretty alturistic if we believe they are genuine about their end goals which most likely they are. But feeling they are using Jaune for his semblance's benefits feels wrong.And if you think about it Jaune dont really need to be in line with their plans to achieve same goal like yes Jaune with Weiss could reform and make SDC better but Jaune itself could run SDC out off business and replace them without needing Weiss etc. which makes their efforts feel cheaper although more realistic I mean they are teens/young adults this line of thinking for that age is pretty normal. Q2: Definitely more aggressive and confident but due to her inexperience prone to either overcommitting or undercommitting. Like in some cases being really forward like Yang and in others being vague like Weiss but due to her competitiveness always improving kind of thing. Q3: If its only between RWBY its Ruby and Weiss. Because Ruby is cute and her infuation seems more genuine. Weiss because I love my cute psyker girlfriend in Rogue Trader. Although Cassia first gave the trader a book about courting before trying drop handkerchief method. So that was skill issue on Weiss's part. If I can pick from others Pyrrha. Note: Maybe I am mistaken but Blake's loan thing repeated both in first part and after Ruby fainting. They act suprised about learning Blakes loan but they should have now she has it from the first part where she mentioned it to Jaune and they heard it. Also I really like the chapter and how you characterize different methods each member use. All of them was either cute or funny and seems to be right on their alley

pilot puntastic

I believe that Blake had her teammates waiting with their weapons drawn not because she tried to seduce Jaune but because she left Weiss tied up in a closet. For the first question I don't believe they're being intentionally scummy just very shortsighted. They could have asked him and laid out their points but instead they made things complicated by trying to seduce him first thereby making both their cause look bad and their affection shallow. For the second i believe she'd take it in a spartan way like taking Jaune on a great hunt to prove her strength or competing in a tournament to show off her combat prowess. Heck maybe she can invite him to shower together and wrestle like the warriors of old. For the third i honestly can't choose. They're all inept in their own hilarious ways.

Blanke

Small typo: "She stood up from her chair and left the living room only to run into Ruby, Yang, and Blake all glaring at her with their weapons drawn." You mean Ruby, Yang and Weiss, I assume.

ShinySpiritomb

1. Weiss and Blake are not bad people. I don’t find them scummy at all for pursuing what they believe to be the greater good. Still, I do hope they get a wake up call and learn to compromise both with Jaune and each other so the path they’re on does not lead to further hardship. 2. I just want thirsty Pyrrha pls. 3. Personally I’m rooting for Weiss. I’ve always subconsciously shipped WhiteKnight for some reason. Something about them being from old families and them being together like a medieval romance just clicks with me I guess. Still, with this being harem I hope all the girls get their time to actually succeed and shine with Jaune.

Redwing641

Q1: Weiss and Blake are too blinded by their agendas. Hoping for a redemption arc Q2: Pyrrah will start slow but I want to see her being aggressive in pursuing a relationship w/ Jaune Q3: Between the RBWY girls I think Ruby is in the lead just because she and Jaune have something to bond over compared to the other girls. Though Jaune opening up to Yang might give her an angle of attack on pursuing Jaune


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