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(Future Fragments) Lots of stuff in this post, be sure to read it!

🕑 Added 2018-04-20 04:43:20 +0000 UTC
(Future Fragments) Lots of stuff in this post, be sure to read it!

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The Future Fragments Team

Oh, I mean the current version of the engine is completely different from the .exe version; the HTML version of the game is on the new engine, but most of the content on it is outdated (probably 90% of it is no longer used at all or has been revised/updated).

The Future Fragments Team

Well dang, thanks a lot :D we just want to make sure that people weren't pledging due to expectations that we wouldn't be fulfilling in regards to game content, that's the last thing we'd ever want! Glad to hear you're happy with the game besides that stuff though :)

Oh no, this game has become good enough that those specific interests not being included is just a little bit of icing being taken off the cake. It's improved a lot since I suspended my original pledge (probably over a year ago), and I was pleasantly surprised with the latest demo. A lot of my issues with the older versions seemed to be entirely gone, even down to very little things like a couple not-so-great voice lines during the h-animations. And thank christ for good controller support, I felt like I was playing a whole new game just from that. You guys just keep up the good work.

The Future Fragments Team

As we don't want to mislead you, unfortunately the game won't have any of those fetishes or mechanics with it; if you were pledging just for those, let me know and I'll be happy to refund you! If you still want to stay on though otherwise, we'd still of course be happy to have you on :D

I am a little disappointed about the removal of that animation, but it makes sense. Considering that hypno, mind control, aphrodisiac, "seduction powers" (etc) kind of content is one of my absolute favorites, I really hope that similar gimmicks are still included in some way. Anything from full on game mechanics to a single H-animation would make this game one of my easiest favorites.

The Future Fragments Team

Yeah, that's right!

So i read somewhere if I pledge for $10 one time i will still get the game upon release.

not happening

Game quality hasn't changed a whole lot, but I did manage to get a copy down from ng. Frustratingly it has to be accessed via network due to browser security constraints, but it is functional. As long as I have my archive I'm happy.

The Future Fragments Team

While that is definitely a good idea, and would be more interactive and make more sense lore-wise, I'd like to avoid overlapping abilities (the Celodst have mild telekinesis and mind abilities, with the Celodst Emperor having extreme ones, his whole boss battle based around them). We're definitely going to rework it into something that will still have its own identity and be different though, for sure.

Ben Miller

Gotta say, I really disagree with the removal of that animation. I liked it specifically because it was different. If you guys are unsatisfied with it then why not modify it a little? Instead of “seduction” powers give the enemy telekinetic powers to move her hands to achieve the same result. It’s a more useful power lore-wise and kind of helps explain how they fly so well with those small wings :P

The Future Fragments Team

So the original fire level unfortunately we don't have in .exe format anymore, as it was on the old programmer's engine and we've since changed it significantly (we only have the HTML5 version that was on Newgrounds); additionally, most of the content on it is very outdated, which is why we don't really spread it around much so people don't get the idea that that's representative of the final game quality. That said, you can definitely still get it on HTML5 propagation sites, and we'll be posting a new Fire Level demo come full game completion!

not happening

Would it be possible to get a copy of the original Fire level? I wasn't able to archive it from Newgrounds - maybe someone else knows how.

bigtotoro

Yes, you have to take into consideration what you think is best. (although I still think there are other aspects to it than "making them feel good" (like, imagine a couple of rebels infiltrates the place and suddenly they get picked off one by one as their female team members gave away their positions without resistance to get the demon D that "the rebel scum love so much") and that an explanation "they're just misusing their general mind control ability for something they're not supposed to do" doesn't break from the things established all that much)

The Future Fragments Team

The sexual perversion stuff can affect them, it's just that it doesn't really do much to ruin Rebel morale, because it would be like going up to a big group of an opposing army IRL and saying "hey, i'm going to make you all feel great!" and then expecting that to ruin morale somehow; if anything, it would ruin WORM morale because they would then be disgusted that they, the WORM, were involving themselves in such acts. It's of course not unsolvable, but it wouldn't work with the current structure of how the plot and world is laid out, and restructuring large parts of the entire society setup within the game just for a single animation isn't something we'd want to do, given that that would mean we'd need to alter or remove many other animations as a result :P

bigtotoro

Ok if you want them to be sentient and not biological weapons / biotech (or at least victims of marginalization by true humans who consider them subhuman even if they're not), then it can't work in the world. Regarding the rebels liking sex ergo no sexual perversion can affect them seems twisted to me, a charm power by something inhuman that can make anyone suddenly love it unconditionally over anything else, no matter what their mission was or what their original personality was, and suddenly all they want to do is shake their hips for it and bring more of its spawn into the world, that seems pretty scary a weapon, no matter what how much of sex maniac you are :P Regarding the "beating up to prove beating up is bad", yeah, that's hypocrisy in simple terms, and it does happen. Maybe some powerful group could get their rocks off in that frigid society by having "subhumans" fuck enemies/spies/prisoners and justify it in some way (and take care of anyone who disagrees and can't be bribed or intimidated). Or whatever, even the winged ones could still be imperfect and develop unexpected features despite all the efforts in engineering. Or it could be just a perfectly intended mind control power that it uses in unexpected ways (same as the grunt not always obeying orders). I don't mean it should be like that in your world, but it's not an unsolvable problem by writing, if you really wanted to have enemies with charm powers. (I was really looking forward to a voiced mind control scene, especially if there were a chance of sudden switching between controlled and free will modes for funsies :D)

The Future Fragments Team

Just to really drive home the thing here with the WORM and sex, two humans having sex in the WORM culture is literally one of the worst acts you could do; it's not something they'd have in one of their soldiers for the act of showing them how it's bad, because that would be like us having say, someone run around beating up other people to show that beating up people is bad. It can't really incapacitate the Rebels, as they've got technology that can just bypass that (per the databanks regarding Kelvrin Darkmoon) and the enemies enjoy sexual activity, so there's no reason they'd lose morale from it. The reason it's different from the MainFrame computer is because the WORM doesn't even know it has that capability; as the MainFrame himself states, he installed that entire machine within himself without WORM's knowledge, specifically for himself/for fun. Additionally, the device, if the WORM did know about it, would be seen as a gratter, which is okay by the WORM; they have pretty specific rules on what is and isn't okay (just like today's culture on a great many things!) None of the enemies are mindless, either; they all have sentience, and can speak "English" (or whatever the language of the future is). The half-demon (and they're not even really demons, it's just the slang name for them) process is something that took thousands of people combining their efforts at the WORM Facility you're in; it wasn't just something done by one person, had to get lots of checks up the ladder, and many failures happened, so it wouldn't be something that could slip by someone, especially when they're mass produced and the whole point of the half-demon project is to make those flying ones (the other two part-demon, part human enemies are failures). Just wanted to clarify the lore there some so it makes more sense why that particular attack doesn't fit with it :P

The Future Fragments Team

There are definitely plans to replace it, for sure :)

Jon P

I think pulling that animation for continuity purposes is fine, are there plans to replace it? (Probably a silly question since once you go back to update everything the Fire level will change the most out of all of them.)

bigtotoro

Does it matter to WORM if a weapon is in violation of their principles if it's a weapon? Like, we do have guns despite it being illegal to shoot people under normal cicumstances. It can still be used for incapacitation, affect the enemy morale, show the worm mooks a sex in bad light so it stigmatizes it for them, etc. I don't see it as different from what the master computer uses as Talia's punishment. Or does it really matter that much if the artificial construct doing the H is metal/silicon vs carbon/biological based if it's still a mindless weapon-beast? Alternately, they could have been created by somebody with ulterior motives, like some higherups who don't really actually care about the rules that much, someone who wants to create biological gratters, or a crazy scientist who uses them for experiments, etc, maybe all in one. I do agree with the "more interaction" part but I do have some disagreement with the seduction part, I don't find it that out of place.

Oh i was juast want to play with that shape XD

The Future Fragments Team

Yep, that's still in the game! We'll be modifying it a bit to fit more of what we're capable of doing with the game now, but that's still in :)

do you remember kinda demon version of talia when you die at the boss room in very old version? like really old


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