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🕑 Added 2022-05-19 15:19:34 +0000 UTCHaven't seen for a while, and I'm sorry that a lot of things happened at the beginning of this month.
It can be a little frustrating when something bad happens one after another.
But my health is generally recovering and I started to continue the progress of the game a few days ago.
I'm going to focus on completing the chapel stage, and as of now, there should be nothing else to deal with.
Let me use this article to report on the Steam situation, I think the next time I have to deal with steam is probably after the game is finished.
These days I have received a lot of questions, but those questions are difficult to answer briefly, so I'll explain what I know as best I can.
So far Steam has banned me twice.
The first time they banned my game because of content issues, and the latest time they banned my game because they found out I resubmitted the same game.
The above mentioned is the reason why steam banned my game, they will not be more detailed explanation on why ban.
So I know the situation is that my game should not be able to be released on steam.
Someone asked if it's okay for release the game with no adult content and use the patch to unlock adult content.
As far as I know, it's not possible because my game has been banned, so it doesn't matter if there are patches or not.
In addition, adult content with patch is actually a very bad method, this method will make the player acceptance become very low and greatly affect the game sales,
and the game producers need to spend a lot of time to modify the game content, time-consuming and ineffective.
Before steam officially opened adult games, it could only be release with patches, but now it's not so troublesome.
However, some agents still maintain the same way as before, so now there are still be some adult games that require patching.
There is another more important question: Why not change agents? Maybe other agents have a way to handle it.
This question is a bit difficult to answer, because I really do not have much information about this area, and I can do very limited choices.
First of all, the agent part of the more familiar adult game agents is in Japan.
But... They are doing a terrible job.
Yes, both in the game sales and the way to release the game, it's all very bad.
I have a friend who has taken his work to their agent, but the results are really bad, and also charged by the agent a lot of agency fees.
So I don't think they can help me to deal with the problem.
The agency that approached me about the game is a new one, but I've known them since before they were founded.
They are very good at game sales and release the game, which I have personally confirmed.
I also have another friend who got very good results through their agency.
This is the reason why I still haven't changed agents.
But this game was banned on the first submission, so I can only say that neither I nor the agent expected this to happen.
The agent did tell me that there were cases where other games were banned 6 times, but eventually they were successfully released.
I had to believe this and submitted it a second time, but it still ended up as a failure.
I think there are many flaws in the second submission, and I feel that the agent may not be clear about the details.
The agent only said to whether to submit other stages or change a new game, because the two submitted games are only contain the first stage.
I think if I want to try again may only try the last time, I really do not have much patience for steam.
As for when to try may have to wait a long time after, may also not try again.
I have another idea that after the game is finished, I will take out some of the material and reorganize it into a new game on Steam, which may have a higher chance of success than now.
But this approach will delete most of the content, and can only be regarded as a compensation for the loss of the ban.
I certainly don't want to put such a version of the game on Steam, but if they don't like my game, I'll have to do it.
But that's something I'll do only after the game is finished.
As for DLsite, I will definitely put up the full version.
To answer the last question: Why do I have to put my game on Steam?
Steam is the world's largest game sales platform, I think there is no reason for me not to do this.
Take my friend who is a game agent for a Taiwanese agent above as an example, his game has sold up to 6,000 sales on DLsite, which is actually very much.
However, he sold 40,000 copies in just over a month on Steam, which is not a comparable sales volume for DLsite.
Yes, Steam is so powerful.
This number is not other platforms can be compared to, not to mention the sales draw on Steam is also less than other platforms.
The above is the conclusion I came to after a few months of fighting with Steam, in short, I should not deal with Steam these days.
Now I will focus on making the game good.
Lastly, I'd like to thank all the sponsors, without you the game would have been over.
I'm sorry that I haven't been able to find anyone to work with me on the game, so I'm still working alone.
But I am sure I will finish this game.
I will try to find someone else to help me after the chapel is finished.
R U N !!!
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一陣子不見了，抱歉這個月初發生了不少事情。
一些不好的事情接連發生真的會讓人有點沮喪。
不過目前身體狀況大致上已經恢復的差不多了，我也在幾天前開始繼續遊戲的進度。
接下來我會專注在完成禮拜堂這個關卡上的，就目前來看，應該已經沒甚麼別的事情要處理了。
讓我順便用這篇報告一下Steam的情況，我想下次要處理steam的事很可能是遊戲完成之後了。
這幾天我有收到很多疑問，但老實說那些問題很難簡短的回答，我就在這邊把我知道的盡可能拿出來跟你們解釋。
總之目前Steam ban了我兩次。
第一次提交時因為內容問題他們直接ban了我的遊戲，而最近這次則是因為他們發現我重新提交一樣的遊戲而ban了我的遊戲。
上面所說的就是steam ban掉我遊戲的原因，他們不會對於為什麼ban進行更詳細的說明。
所以就我認知的情況就是說我的遊戲應該是不辦法上架到steam了。
有人提問說遊戲以無色情內容的方式上架並附上補丁的方式行不行？
就以我的認知應該是不行的，因為我的遊戲已經被ban了，這跟有沒有補丁沒關係了。
另外補丁其實是很糟糕的做法，這種作法會讓玩家接受度變很低大大影響銷售，而且需要大量修改遊戲內容，費時又沒效益。
以前steam還沒正式開放色情遊戲以前，色情遊戲只能透過補丁上架，現在開放後其實不用這麼麻煩了。
但還是有些廠商維持之前上架的方式，所以現在還是會出現需要補丁的色情遊戲。
還有另一個比較重要的問題也在這邊說明：為什麼不換代理商？也許其他代理商有辦法處理。
這個問題就有點難回答了，因為我對這方面的資訊實在不多，能做的選擇很有限。
首先代理商部分目前比較知名的色情遊戲代理商就日本那邊的。
但...他們做的很糟。
是的，不管是在銷售上還是遊戲上架方式，都很不好。
我有朋友有拿作品給他們代理過，但成效真的很糟，還被收取不少代理費。
就這樣看起來我不認為他們有辦法幫我處理問題。
而目前接洽我遊戲的代理商是個新創的代理商，不過在創立之前就已經認識了。
他們行銷以及遊戲上架方面都相當出色，這方面的事項我都有親自確認過。
也有另一個朋友透過他們代理獲得很好的成績。
這也是我還是沒換代理商的原因。
只是這款遊戲卻在第一次提交時被Ban，只能說我跟代理商都沒想到會發生這種事。
代理商是跟我說有其他遊戲被Ban了6次，不過最後卻成功重新上架的案例。
我也只能相信這個說法所以提交了第二次，但還是以失敗做收。
我是覺得第二次提交有許多瑕疵，感覺代理商可能也不清楚這方面的細節。
最後代理商只說看要不要提交其他關卡或換新遊戲了，因為目前兩次提交的遊戲都只有第一關而已。
我是覺得如果要再試可能只能再試最後一次，我對steam真的也沒甚麼耐心了。
至於何時試可能得等很久之後了，也可能不會再試。
而我現在有另一個想法是等遊戲完成後，會抽出部分素材重組成新遊戲上架這樣，可能會比現在有更高的成功機會。
只是這種做法會刪減掉大部分的內容，只能當作為了彌補被ban的損失而做出來的補償品。
我當然不希望在Steam上架這種版本的遊戲，但如果他們不歡迎我，我也只能這麼做了。
不過這是遊戲完成後才會做的事了。
至於DLsite我一定會上架完整版的。
回答最後一個問題：為什麼一定要上架Steam？
Steam作為一個全世界最大的遊戲銷售平台，我覺得我沒有不上架Steam的理由。
就以我上面給台灣代理商代理遊戲的朋友為例，他的遊戲在DLsite賣出高達6千的銷售量，其實已經非常多了。
然而他在Steam上才上架短短一個多月卻賣出4萬份，這不是DLsite能比擬的銷售量。
是的，Steam的市場就是這麼強大。
這數字不是其他平台能夠比的上的，更別說抽成方面Steam也是比其他平台少。
以上就是跟Steam打滾幾個月得出來的結論，總之我最近應該都不會處理Steam的事了。
現在我會專注在把遊戲做好的。
最後我還是很感謝所有贊助者，如果沒有這些贊助這個遊戲應該已經結束了。
雖然很抱歉我一直找不到人配合我一起製作遊戲，結果搞到現在還是一個人在做。
但我確定我會把這款遊戲做完的。
等禮拜堂完成後我會再嘗試找其他人的，大概就這樣。
快逃啊!
Comments
Poring
現在好的差不多了，最近會加緊進度的，謝囉
QAT
（顺带这男主看到现在莫名想打他屁股）（喂
QAT
加油！不过确实挺可惜的。对于独立游戏作者来说的话，Steam往往是最好的选择。（没有Steam之前别说是R-18游戏想要大卖了，就算是一般的非R-18游戏想要真的火一把都是相当之困难的） 另外人没事就好！(｀・ω・´)b。作者大佬还是记得要保重自己身体哦！
bfbfbfbbf
已经不能称之为人了......
Poring
人類的關節應該是沒辦法這樣移動吧w
bfbfbfbbf
尝试着用素描假人摆弄了一下小魅魔爬行的动作... 真是惊人的腰胯部柔韧性！骑上来的话一定扭得很厉害！
Poring
Thank you!
Poring
謝啦!
Poring
I'm sure this stage will be fantastic!
Poring
就繼續做該做的吧
ha haha
I'm sorry to hear that steam is still a bitch. :/ I wish you success and endurance!
加油吧，您的游戏真的很赞👍
Sama変態
Glad to see you're feeling better. Really excited for what's to come. This will be a legendary game.
只能说加油了emmm（pc梯子炸了还没找到别的
Poring
但我還是很需要steam，DLsite是一定會上的
Poring
都這樣跑出來了，很難不是w
loveyuxaing206
It doesn't matter I don't like it myself STEAM Although put DLsite Bar I will introduce it to my friends 沒關係 我本身也不喜歡 STEAM 盡管放上DLsite 吧 我會介紹給我的朋友的
Bonniethebunny
虽然前面因为上不了steam都挺难过的，但是看到后面这个gif图差点笑出声（不会是真的这样追击吧
