120. Vanessa Guillen - The Murdered Soldier

I RAN BACK HERE- right now current day 11/21/22 I’m watching the Netflix documentary on this. Before my boyfriend even started it I looked at him and go “why do I know about this already?” I immediately came here and went scrolling and knew I wasn’t crazy that you already covered this! So crazy and sad there’s now a Netflix doc on it ❤️‍🩹

UCMJ code of ethics its illegal to participate in an affair, if one party is married its illegal fratenization is if a superior and junior begin a relationship while working in the same unit. (It can affect how one promotes or gets punished)

On base we dont keep cameras unless its a store or something. We don't have them because its expensive and for personal security measures. We don't report much to police or military police cause it could cause backlash if she's wasn't missing. Similar to reporting sexual harassment.

When you gunna drop a patreon exclusive?

I am the same MOS as her we did the same job. I didn’t know her but I worked with people that knew her and although I didn’t know her she is one of us so it hit us all hard when we found out about her.

Vanessa sister commented on your tiktok!

Omg, never looked at it this way, and it makes so much sense

You would think a military base is the safest place but it’s just like anywhere else. As a kid when my dad was deployed, a soldier would go around to the homes where he knew soldiers were deployed and r*ped their wives. He almost broke into our house but my mom woke up and called the police. My husband I’m currently active duty and you’d be surprised by the stuff that happens on military bases. It’s heartbreaking and absolutely disgusting.

This event was really hard for me to follow at the time that it was happening, I am so happy that you covered it. My personal opinions do not represent those of the Department of Defense, but many, many systems fail, just as they failed during this entire investigation. Vanessa told her family that many other female Soldiers had gone through the appropriate channels to report incidents of sexual harassment, and it was either overlooked or swept under the rug. I've done some research in the past, and this has been the very unfortunate climate around the entire military for decades. The number of VA claims for military sexual trauma are much larger than the number of reported cases. They have revamped the policies, but those policies do not help when the entire climate of personnel is what needs to be revamped. This means not retaining Soldiers who have cases of founded reports against them, and permanently removing top leaders from service, not just from positions that they can find their way back into at a different location.

My dad (a 25 year veteran) and I listened to this episode and he said he doesn’t believe his motive. He thinks it’s ironic that when she goes to Robinson to check serial numbers on guns, she gets attacked. My dad believes he was stealing guns and she found out and he took her out and the army would rather use his affair as his motive instead of admitting that someone was selling their guns. If his affair was such a big deal, why did he use her as an alibi

Even though I haven't listen to Y'all cover the story. I'm Active Duty in the military and I remember everyone constantly talk about this story and about Vanessa and how us as women in the Armed Forces are still abused and possibly treated as lower vs the men (my own personal opinion of what ive seen, does not represent DoD POV). Thank you for covering these military stories