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Better Bars & Liquor Stores, Public Release
🕑 Added 2023-11-06 01:56:28 +0000 UTC
I've been irritated at how hard it is to incorporate Juice Fizzes and Seltzers into game play. Like, why can't you order one at a bar?
If you want to run a retail store that sells Juice Fizzes, it's pretty hard to manage unless you craft everything yourself. If you place them out of Build/Buy, the packages are empty, etc, since they need the crafting process to make them usable.
And to be honest, the only practical way to make a lot of Juice Fizzes is to become a farmer to grow all the stuff to have enough ingredients.
But what if you just want to have a fizz at the bar with your friends?
Bar Additions
First, I added some features to Bars. It adds all the Juice Fizzes and Seltzers to the Order Drink menu in commercial venues, as well as coffee and tea. NPCs will order these drinks as well, so you will see them drinking bottles, cans, etc. I also added some Whole Pizzas, so you can order and share a pizza at a bar, as well as some other bar-type food.
Plus a Carry-Out menu on Bartenders for "package sales" of bottles of nectar, 6-packs of fizzes, boxes of seltzers and whole pizzas. Note that prices from the bar Carry-Out menu are a bit more expensive than usual, since that's usually how that work. OTOH, you're covered for game night if you forget to plan ahead.
Retail Additions
You can't normally put Juice Fizzes or Seltzers in the Retail Fridge (they're missing the RETAIL_FRIDGE inventory type). So, I'm injecting the RETAIL_FRIDGE inventory type to all the Juice Fizz and Seltzer multi-pack tunings so that you can.
To make it easier to sell fizzes as a retailer without having to be a full-time crafter/farmer to make all the products, I inject a menu to the Retail Fridge to Restock it with Juice Fizzes and Seltzers (from a wholesaler...you know). If you own the store it's in, you pay the same as a restocking fee (80% list - perks modifiers).
And my favorite feature, if an NPC owns the retail store, you can visit the store and restock the retail fridge for free! You still need to purchase them from the retail fridge as usual to get at them (at retail prices), but at least you can get something to buy without having to play a retailer just to set the store up.
New Grapes for Dine Out Nectars
You can make all of the six types of nectar already found in the game:
House Red Nectar
House White Nectar
Von Haunt Estate Meloire
Soft Shadow Avornalino
Riverblossum Cranerlet Nuala
Monte Vista Reserve Renoit
Granite Falls Grappo Blanco
Each type of nectar comes from a particular strain of grape:
Grape
Green Grape
Meloire Grape
Avornalino Grape
Renoit Grape
Cherimola Blan
Seeds for the grapes are available randomly in the Starter Fruit Seed Pack.
Bulk Manufacturing
You can create bulk recipes using the Simsco Canning Factory, including
Kegs of Juice Fizz (Canning Factory recipes): requires 30 fruit, needs refrigeration, can be bottled to produce 6 6-packs of the corresponding Juice Fizz type. Can be sold to bars and restaurants at a higher price using my Food & Beverage Supplier mod.
Nectar Casks (Canning Factory recipes): requires 12 grapes of corresponding type, does not need refrigeration, gets more valuable with age. Can be opened to produce 4 bottles of wine. Can be sold to bars and restaurants at a higher price using my Food & Beverage Supplier mod.
Themed Bars
I've added some lot traits to create different sorts of patrons in different bars (and lounges, etc). It just causes more of the bar patrons to be a certain type. I think I put these under the lot challenges so that they didn't use up a primary lot trait slot.
Cop Bar
The bar gets full of cops, after work. I might create a version specifically for cafes...
Criminal Bar
The bar is frequented by sims in the Criminal career
Art Bar
This is a fun one. It attracts patrons that drink and paint. And drink. There was a Paint Bar around the corner from where I live before the pandemic, and it seemed to be a lot of fun (they sold supplies, etc). Anyway, now you can have one, just remember to place some easels around.
Sports Bar
This is basically a Bro bar. Make sure there are plenty of televisions.
Change Log
1.0.0b, 2023-02-12, Initial Patreon Preview
1.0.1b, 2023-05-08, Patreon Preview, added Nectar
1.0.2b, 2023-05-11, Patreon Preview, bugfixes, correcting labels and ingredient lists
1.0.3b, 2023-09-03, Patreon Preview, added NectarMaker recipes for DineOut nectar, modified nectar bottles to behave the same as Horse Ranch nectar bottles.
1.0.4b, 2023-09-24, Patreon Preview, color coded wine casks.
1.0.5, 2023-11-05, Public Release
1.0.6, 2024-10-22, Patch 1.110 Update
1.0.7, 2025-07-01, Patch fix for Enchanted by Nature
1.0.8, 2025-07-11, Additional fix after Enchanted by Nature emergency patch to fix exception while opening fruit seed packets
As always, suggestions and or bug reports are welcome. Thanks again for your support!
Comments
Travikus
The post is full of love <3 I think I'm reading it for the 3d time now (rearranging my mods, trying what'd be best, etc), every time the easel bar and the personal story behind it makes me smile. An amateur theater where I used to act for a while had a post season gathering at such bar. I always thought to myself I'd get there someday to drink and paint, and drink. Anyways, I'm downloading the mod _again_ lol. Thank you!
Simsonian Library
Yes, as far as I can tell. I double checked it just now. The Carry Out Sales menu is on the bar and the extra food items are on the bar menus. I haven't tried all of the features since the patch, but Better Exceptions isn't showing me any errors related to it.
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hi is this still working?
Simsonian Library
I'm taking a look at that. Given the last term in the error, I'm wondering if it's because it uses some packs you don't have. I'll see if there are any objects (which are what have _components tags) that use pack-specific components, and get back to you here.
Lella
Hey! I love your mod! Unfortunately, I just installed "Better Exceptions" and it has a huge problem with your mod. :( From the report: Recommended Action There is bad tuning in this mod: \SCRIPT mod - SimsonianLibrary_BetterBars_1.0.6\SimsonianLibrary_BetterBars.package Delete it from your mods folder or see if the author has an updated version. If it is a multi-package mod make sure you update all of them. Possible Cause (Confidence: 100%) \SCRIPT mod - SimsonianLibrary_BetterBars_1.0.6\SimsonianLibrary_BetterBars.package Reason [cjiang] Error occurred within the tag named '_components' (value: U) (UnavailablePackSafeResourceError)
Simsonian Library
Just noticed this paragraph on the S&S bar mod: "The mod is a override of EA files such as bar_PushOrderDrink and bar_pushOrderFood (and other related files). We have not found a single mod that would change the same files - that is, compatible with all mods" If they completely overrode that file, it would probably break the injections that BB uses to add items to the bar menu. Looking at that. (they may not be compatible)
Simsonian Library
Are you referring to this mod? https://www.patreon.com/posts/mod-order-at-bar-76373840 I'll try installing that today (need to head to work right now) and see what happens. It looks like it modifies a lot of the same things as BetterBars, so there may be incompatibilities. I'll install it and see if I can work through them. Thanks for the report, and I'll let you know what I find!
Tam
I just update my mods for the ss that I can order functional drinks and snacks at the bar with her mod and yours and I put better bar back in it still showing the same thing so I’m unsure what’s causing the mod to have issues
Simsonian Library
That's helpful! I'll go try ordering a drink and see what happens.
Tam
Basically my game saying when I go to a lot like the bar it saying that it’s broken and I try to purchase my sims some drinks it give me a error and the game was saying there is bad tuning
Simsonian Library
I use the mod myself and haven't noticed any errors from it, so I could use some more information to look into it. Are you using MCCommand or any other error tracker that might be able to provide more details about the error? MCCommand generates an HTML file that contains all of this -- not sure about Better Exceptions. Otherwise, the lastException.txt file that gets generated in your game folder (next to Mods) might shed some light on it. Otherwise, are you getting the error when you enter Live mode or go to a lot, or are you getting it when you perform a particular interaction? Thanks for the report, and I'll look at it as soon as I can get more information -- actually, I'm going to look at it either way, but more information would help me find and fix it.
Tam
im getting last exceptions for better bars for my game saying this mod is broken in m game
Simsonian Library
Thanks! I'll have to ponder how to make those optional, but I'm curious. Do CC harvestables cause problems? (the ones in this mod are about the only ones I use).
Sarah
I absolutely love this mod! Seriously a game changer imo. My only feedback/ask is if there could be a way to opt-out of the dine-out grapes in the future? I love this mod but don't usually like playing with CC harvestables. Even if not, it's not a biggie b/c this mod makes bars and restaurants sooooo much better. Tysm again for all the amazing work you do!
