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Science News Aug 15

🕑 Added 2023-08-15 16:00:09 +0000 UTC
Science News Aug 15

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Hello Thomas, I know that position of the Standard Model, but it is obviously not correct. I worked in a research center with an electron accelerator and witnessed the relevant experiments. They did scattering with charged particles (like protons) and the result was a point-like expansion of the electron. But this was the expansion of the electric charge of the electron. Unfortunately, the electron was assumed to have no structure. But the electron has a structure because it has a spin and a magnetic moment. From both properties the total size of the electron can be derived. And this size agrees with the size found by Erwin Schrödinger in 1930 in a purely quantum mechanical evaluation. And to say it again, with the help of this quantity the mass of the electron can be determined (classically) and the result agrees very exactly with the measurement of the mass. In contrast to the Higgs model, which does not give any result at all. And BTW, also the wave function of a particle has a limited size.

Hello Albrecht, in my patchy knowledge, according to the standard model, the electron has no size, but being point-like. In QM it´s a wave function without any limit of size.

The size of the proton is about 0 .9*10^-15 m according to today's physics. The size of the electron is according to Schrödinger (1930) a little bit more than 10^-13 m, so it is bigger. Today's physics assumes in the tables a size of the electron of about <10^-18 m, but this is only the size of the electric charge. If you substitute the size of the electron according to Schrödinger into the mass formula m=h-bar/c*r, where r is the radius of the particle, you get the correct mass of the electron. Without corrections with a measurement deviation of 1:1000, with a correction for the electric charge of 1:200 000. Please compare this with the state of the Higgs model, which in practice gives NO result ... that is the Standard Model.

A different and specific form of "fifth force" came my way when a reanalisis of Eotvos' gradiometer data was said to show unexplained variations in gravity, and this led to a wide range of things being done, from a study of the influence of the casks of wine in his cellar to a quantum theoretical interpretation, back in the late eighties. Because I have worked on the study of space missions designed to map in detail the gravity fields of Earth, planets, etc., that have since then become reality, I was in the middle of this, although not as an active participant, because I was really skeptical about the whole thing. Some experiments were made by colleagues, including one using a very tall TV transmission antenna somewhere in Massachusetts, if I remember correctly. Eventually nothing was found at a high enough level of significance, and this just went away, except for die-hards keen on finding things "beyond the Standard Model" and suchlike, surprisingly still at it: https://nautil.us/the-fifth-force-of-physics-is-hanging-by-a-thread-236494/

Rad Antonov

So the size of the electron is bigger than the size of the proton? 🤔

For the electron as an example, the classical calculation can be found at ag-physics.org/electron and here in appendix B.


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