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Temple of Arba Campaign Update: We Hear You

🕑 Added 2023-05-04 13:21:48 +0000 UTC

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Artisan Guild

We hope to make an announcement about it soon :)

Luke Bampton

Any update on Arba? I want to print some trees for DnD! :D

Ben

Is there a date for the relaunch?

Christopher Lee

I appreciate this honesty, and I do think the set looks great. I'll keep an eye for your relaunch.

Michael Abraham

Maybe there could be a set with just the creatures and a set with creatures and terrain and maybe just a set with terrain and then people could pick which set they wanted but they didn't want the terrain they could just get the creatures

B. Griffith

Blake Urban, nobody “encountered” “heartbreaking” feedback, jeez. All of the comments that I have seen were extremely polite and made with an attitude of disappointment. Everyone WANTED the art, but weren’t able or willing (both are reasonable reasons) to buy it. That doesn’t benefit anyone. The artist doesn’t get money, and the patron doesn’t get art. It’s totally possible to make a mistake when valuing your own work, since a mistake is defined as something that makes you less money in the end, and that’s what happened. I support artists. I AM a professional artist, and have been for over 20 years. This was not the insult to artists you’re trying to make it be.

Steven Schnepp

They're not guaranteed, but a lot of them were saying that they'd go for it if it were less expensive. The biggest question is whether or not the people who weren't talking will go for it.

Joshua Plunkett

I wouldn't pay this much for a set but tbh I have zero interest in terrain. Here for the minis.

Mark Nold

Well done. Elegant pivot. Your work is amazing, keep on going!

Robin Blair

Some folks who thought the price was too high are maybe just spoiled by the AMAZING VALUE of the monthly sets?? But mostly I'm guessing it's simply a matter of not wanting all the stuff in the set, as the price seemed fair if you wanted most of the content. I'd love the creatures, but while the terrain looks awesome, I probably wouldn't print it. I'd pay a bit extra for the creatures if they came with the terrain (or even a subset of it), but not a ton extra. I planned to wait and see if some of the critters came up for sale individually at some point.

Jason Burke

I love the work you guys do, and I think the campaign was price appropriately (compared to other terrain campaigns I've supported in the past). However, I only have a resin printer, so a good portion of the models weren't usable for me (I actually looked at getting a new fdm printer just for this campaign, but it wasn't feasible right now). When the campaign returns I really hope that there's a resin only pledge level since I absolutely loved the figs and the trees, and I would really like to support this campaign.

Apostello

I absolutely love your work and involvement with the community. You are by far, the best miniature creator I have found, and use your miniatures weekly for campaigns and printing for friends. thanks so much for your passion!

Ignacio Ureta

1000% agree

Scott D Mulhearn

This is why I will be supporting everything AG does

TStones

Crazy impressed that you're taking the community's feedback and acting on it - this is what people want to see from creators, and I have no doubt that this campaign is going to go fantastically when re-launched!

Blake Urban

I agree that the price tag was more than reasonable. I was fully willing to pay full price. Me not signing up for the early bird was time stipulations for my finances and not the price point itself. I find it heartbreaking that this kind of feedback was encountered by an artist. Value you your work how you see fit and I’ll be more than willing to support however I can.

Jérémy Guay

I think we can all agree we rather you guys try and get some setbacks than you guys never try. Keep it up you are all doing great !

Korotus

nerdy greetings! I can only say for myself: no problem! I'm a craftsman and I know what it's like to miscalculate. so from my side, you have my fullest understanding and I'm looking forward to the upcoming, perfect kickstarter! a wish from me: pack the fountain, the collapsed tower, the bridge and maybe a base pack in 25mm, 32mm, 40mm etc. which already has a recess for magnets on the underside with you? and: a cemetery *.* so again briefly (from me) I stay patreon, I'm not disappointed and I'm looking forward to the upcoming terrain kickstarter <3 cheers, fraenky

Rob Silvester

Sell the art at $100 to 100 people, make $10000 Sell the art at $50 to 500 people, make $25000 Which scenario better rewards the artist for their hard work? A high individual price tag does not automatically equate to the art's 'true value'.

BillyWardlaw

I don't think it was the price per se (for some it may have been) but rather that you had to pay a larger price for pieces you may not really have wanted in order to get the pieces you did want, which means its more about value than price.

Artisan Guild

thanks guys, it means a lot for me to hear your feedback!

Happy

I really appreciate this step more then I can say. And I can imagine, that it was not easy decision to make. You give it all your time and hard work just to realize, that your vision is not in harmony with belief of others. Admiting of own mistake is always hard, but also very brave at the same time. I am truly proud to be your long time backer - not just for your great sculps but also because your connection to your community. And I deeply believe, that restarted campaign will be great success not just for us as backers, but also for you as creators.

Kyle Bentley

I just want to say that I admire your willingness to reevaluate things based on feedback. It takes a lot of guts and humility to listen to even constructive criticism, admit things could be better, and make changes. I also appreciate your commitment to making sure everyone is refunded, and that original backers are rewarded. I didn't join the campaign due to the cost, but it wasn't a source of anger or offence to me, just a shrug of the shoulders. However, I will be watching the campaign relaunch with interest, and your attitude towards this whole situation has increased my already positive opinion of the Artisan Guild team.

Nicholas Brennan

I complained about the price, however it wasn’t to guilt you into lowering it. I respect you charging what you feel your work is worth. Don’t short change yourself. I personally love your work which is why I support it. You can charge whatever, the sales just might reflect what others are willing to pay is all. Anyways don’t lose sleep over all of our complaints. Although I won’t complain about the price being lower 😅

Marie Rowland

This^

Marie Rowland

I was super excited about this campaign, went to pledge, saw the price and even with the discount just couldn’t justify spending that kind money on it. I was also surprised to see that there were only one pledge level and no add ons or stretch goals. I’m glad you are reviewing it :) You know I love your work, and I’m looking forward to the relaunch!!

Roger Miller

I have to say that the willingness to listen to the community make me so proud to be a member of the Artisan Guild patreon. I had the same pricing reservations and simply decided not to pledge. I thought cool terrain, but more than I’d like to spend. Seeing how thoughtfully you responded and with such care, I will definitely be paying whatever the set gets rereleased for. It is the willingness of AG to be humble and produce such AMAZING work that I am proud to use at my gaming table.

Paul Morin

I just want to say it is amazing that AG has decided to listen to their patrons and decided to act on their patrons comments. Not many companies/studios would take this action.

Rob T

Price was fine. Don't feel you have to under value your work as an artist.

MalkavianLogic

I'll keep an eye open for the new campaign. For me it was way too expensive. Don't sacrifice your health or well being for it though.

Dusk

Hope you won't lose money because of that change. People complaining are not guaranted to come back or stop saying it's too expensive, after all.

Tobias Moll

I pledge because i love ur Designs and i like to Pay for ur stuff so u will make more and more :P do i understand it right that i get a refund and can pledge again when u Re Release the Set with the new Price?

Bernat Rovira Lastra

I have all the AG models, i didn't miss any campaign or KS, and i wanted to back this one. I did, and as said before me, I appreciate the patreon discount, but this was the first time i thought about not backing, and its because of the price. We are used to get lots of minis, high quality and unique style every month, so in comparison Arba seems very expensive. Moreover, I have also silimar terrain stls to some of these, so it seems even more expensive to me. Anyway, the minis and terrain looks amazing as always!!

Nicholas Hendley

I joined and appreciate the discount, but even with the discount and the early bird, I agree with most others that the price is a bit high for what is included. I was hoping there would be some more things added as the frontier campaign continues. The trees are amazing, but I'm fairly sure I already own similar files and such. AG is one of the few patreons I maintain at the moment because the quality seems to be consistently there. I like the themes and such. But yeah, that FronTIER is just a bit too pricey. :-|

SL

I get what you're saying, that the minis were added as a bonus to the terrain. My point is simply, in the future, would you please consider offering a separate package with each, in case people want only one?

Artisan Guild

the day the campaign ends you will got your files Jeff :)

Artisan Guild

Thanks Maegan! While we initially intended it to be a terrain-only bundle, we have decided to include exclusive minis as a token of gratitude for being part of the Expedition :)

Artisan Guild

While we initially intended it to be a terrain-only bundle, we have decided to include exclusive minis as a token of gratitude for being part of the Expedition :)

Steven Schnepp

That is a rather high price to be asking in the midst of a recession. I can afford it, yeah, but it's still pretty high for the value of the product. Brand name, so to speak, only carries so far. What sort of market analysis led to the conclusion that a ballpark of a hundred dollars was going to maximize profits?

virtualmorrigan

Let me give you my feedback. The set looks lovely, but as many have said before, the price is steep. The patreon discount code does not offset the VAT on the original price, so...I'm afraid this is a pass for me. Which is really a pity.

LordHoratio

Contact MMF for support.

The_ Hybred

I love playing DnD and have subbed to Artisan Guild for over almost two years. I’d like to drop some feed back as well. The work is fantastic, and I’d love to support something else but my resources are stretched at the moment and I can’t justify getting that pack for the tree beast and pinup(those are the two I’m most interested in). I’d have rather had this broken up into three months of Patreon releases vs a separate purchase. It would have had a few pluses to do it this way. 1) I’m already subbed so paying for something I already support is kinda a feel bad. However, if it was broken up it would have give members the option to opt out of if the minis was all that they wanted it wouldn’t have felt as bad. 2) spacing it out in the monthly tiers would have given Artisan guild approximately three months to get future work done while doing a prolonged release. 3) Keep up the fantastic work! I know there has been some controversial feedback but don’t take it the wrong way, your work is great. I just cut two patreons off for financing reasons and yours just isn’t an option to sever ties with, I’m going to cut out eating out as much to keep yours for the month. All in all everyone can agree they love your work.

Dusk

I honestly think the price is actually fair for the content and quality of work. Yes, it's worth 8 months of patreon here, but the patreon is already an offer given the price all patreon releases are actually sold on myminifactory. I can understand why it's more interesting for the creator to sell it all in a single bundle and I won't complain about it. Yes, that means it's not intended for everyone and I'm fine with it. As long as Artisan Guild keeps being supported and they keep selling / funding future works, I'm okay with it.

Peter Denby

You can’t combine the codes, only the larger discount will be applied :(

B. Griffith

I really hate to say this, but I think feedback is important. I agree with everyone else. I was very excited for this, but I just can’t justify the price. It’s about twice as expensive as I expected, based on the dozens of other campaigns I’ve backed, and since I don’t really need the ruined temple buildings, that’s a LOT to pay for some awesome trees and a handful of nice minis. 😢 I wouldn’t bother complaining if I didn’t love your stuff so much!

Tim Watts

As other have said. This is a great set, the price point is just much too high for me to be able to justify it. I rarely use terrain, so it's a lower priority than mini's for me. I'd buy in at about 40 USD. I'd love to be able to just get the miniatures.

Matthew Jones

I got so excited I skipped one of the discount codes! I got the early bird tier and the discount from the last post but didn’t check my email! Oh well! Artisan Guild is my favorite thing to spend money on! I can’t wait to print this terrain! I always love the terrain that comes with the models each month!

Bernat Rovira Lastra

Trying to enter both discount codes, but it doesen't seems to work. It says separate by a coma, but it's not working. Any ideas? Thanks!!

Jeff Moyer

I know it's SUPER early to be asking, I'm just excited to start the printers up, but do we have an estimated release date?

Ross Felder

Really love the set and ended up backing it, but I agree, that price really took a chunk out of my stl budget. Wish there were some stretch goals.

Adam Marafioti

I’m torn. I love the set, but I agree with others that it’s a bit too expensive. I can get this set or 8 of your monthly sets. From that perspective, the monthly sets get me a lot more for my money.

Jeff Kunst

As with many others I was so keen for this, but 80 USD is too much for me.

Dusk

Really nice for acquiring terrain for your tables. Unfortunately, I already have enough trees and ruins to cover mine and I really don't need more. Wish you success !

Happy

Unfortunately have to agree with others, the sculpts are amazing but the price is too steep even with discount code :( With price about $40 it will be no brainer, but with actual one I have problem to justify the price. But it is still tempting me somehow because I love your work.

Brandon Ryan

As others have said, these are beautiful, I want them, but I unfortunately can’t justify the cost 😔 if they are available separately later,I will surely buy individually sets incrementally though

Artisan Guild

Everything has been cut to fit the smaller building plate :)

Paul Morin

Same here. Love the minis (as always) but the complete set is out of budget.

Hellvlad

This is great stuff but unfortunately out of my budget. I would love to contribute at a lower tier for the minis only

Mansonian

Great job, but way too expensive master. 94$ EB + discount code is way too pricy alas

TStones

Really would like to back this, but $80 is steep (although it's a ton of models!). Even with the discount code it might be out of my price range.

Nicholas Brennan

I’ll probably just buy the trees latter down the road if they are sold individually. Slightly out of my price range for the entire thing

Desotar

Great work! I wont back it though as it is to much $ for me. Good luck anyways!

Meagan Cunningham

I wish we could just buy the miniatures separately; I don't really print out terrain, so unfortunately buying this set just isn't worth it to me. Looks amazing though.