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DITW 11-4: Two Lips

🕑 Added 2023-07-20 00:00:04 +0000 UTC

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Pete

You're right, that is post-nut clarity. And while it's realistic, him withdrawing his love and punishing her isn't OK. He's asked for this many times. Him punishing her for giving him what he's explicitly asked for is far, far beyond wrong. It's abusive. I'd like to see Kimmy start to recognize this, stop tolerating it, and even start punishing him for doing it, and for having done it in the past. It might be fun to see a subsequent atonement path, where humiliatrix Kimmy holds Josh accountable for all of his past behavior. Josh as a character deserves a cum-uppance. He truly deserves all the punishment and humiliation he fantasizes about.

Pete

"What I would love to see is Josh and Kimmy both getting what they want while somehow controlling and humiliating Devlin, but Josh is too weak to exert any control over this situation." I agree, but it doesn't have to be Josh who exerts any control. I think Kimmy may become the Alpha in their marriage, and she could become an Alpha to Devlin as well. That would be a fun, ultimate twist. Switching topics, I also share your concerns about her pregnancy. Having a kid, becoming a parent, that all seems un-sexy to me, and in stark contrast to her becoming the "huntress" that Devlin (and Josh) dream of her becoming. But, KT has left a wildcard in the deck: Just because Kimmy is pregnant doesn't mean she'll have a child. I haven't read further yet, but 1) It could be a false positive; 2) She has had one miscarriage before; she could have another. The story, as of this chapter, provides the eroticism of Devlin getting Kimmy pregnant, and all the humiliation of Josh that that suggests, without committing the story to it fully yet.

Pete

Agreed. I like how you describe Confident Kimmy vs. Passive/Distraught Kimmy. I'm a big fan of Confident Kimmy.

L.

I do not think that Josh has the balls to actually beat Devlin at this game. Even with Kimmy’s help.

L.

“Part of the intrigue here is that he's much more subservient and accepting in the moment, while turned on, but is much more harsh, unforgiving and downright unloving and distant after the luster is knocked off and he's had time to comprehend what it all means without lust clouding his mind.” Isn’t this the essence of post-nut clarity? With Kimmy’s lizard brain, her job as primal woman will be to keep rubbing her betrayal in Josh’s face (note, her rubbing Devlin’s territory-marking cum on her leg) until he either beats her into submission — losing her — or beating Devlin, losing, and losing her anyway.

L.

Having not read ahead, it’s a false dominance. Face saving. She will open her pussy for Devlin, and continue betraying Josh to get what she wants.

CSH

It’s KT’s.

Kat

L_S87, thanks for the welcome. I agree with you about Devlin getting off on impregnating Kimmy, and lording it over Josh, while emasculating him even more. I didn’t think of it that way. I’m hoping this really blows up for Kimmy. I have no doubt KT will come up with something awesome. I read a lot of different stuff/genres, but I’m hooked on her writing. This story, while dark, evokes so many emotions. I can’t wait to see how it plays out. Love reading everyone’s thoughts, too!

Kat

Hahahaha

L_S87

Welcome to the den of iniquity and angst, Kat! Good, points, although I would say that I think Devlin would be VERY attracted to the idea of Kimmy having his child. Oh, I dont think he's particularly interested in being a father, but the primal act of getting Kimmy pregnant, humiliating Josh with that fact, maybe making Josh raise his kid? Oh, yes, he's very much the kind of asshole who would love that. That pregnancy is a big challenge for Kimmy who wants to have her cake of Josh's comforting love and eat it too through enjoying glamorous evenings ending in mind blowing sex with Devlin. It's not impossible, but there's so many ways this can blow up in her face. It already did, if not fully, and there's a lot of land mines, even beyond her pregnancy, just waiting for a wrong step. Like you, I'd prefer it if she and Josh could find a way to wrangle this into THEIR thing, I just don't know if it's possible given all the mistakes already made and future challenges ahead. KT will give us something special, I know that.

Donkatsu

Not to worry, Kat, young mothers are very sexy.

Kat

I love the term humiliatrix, too!

Kat

Hi, I’m kind of new here. I’ve been lurking in the background for a few months, and I really enjoy reading everyone’s comments. DITW is an addicting read. It has everything! Plus, as a bonus, I live near Ajax, and KT’s descriptions and details of Ajax and Toronto are dead on! Sometimes I forget it’s just a book! I wish Josh would grow a backbone, but he gets off tormenting himself. Afterwards, he’s ashamed and angry with himself. I wish he would be more forceful and honest with Kimmy. I would love to see her suffer more. She has not paid for her sins, but I don’t hate her. She’s also unhappy inside, living a life that doesn’t satisfy her. She’s only 27 or 28? She’s too young to settle down and have kids. I get why she loves the glamorous life of working for Stone. With all the trappings and great sex she gets from Devlin, it’s hard to see how she’ll ever be satisfied giving it all up to spend her nights on the couch watching Netflix and eating Good Taste (the real place is called Fine Taste, and the takeout is amazing!) with Josh. I do believe that she truly loves her husband, but the other life is too strong a pull for her. What I would love to see is Josh and Kimmy both getting what they want while somehow controlling and humiliating Devlin, but Josh is too weak to exert any control over this situation. He can’t even confront Kimmy about the truth and tell her what’s been going on with Devlin behind her back. This chapter was amazing, seeing Kimmy sort of dominate Devlin. She wanted to give in so badly, but she needs to sort things out with Josh before she's with Devlin again. I'll give it a few more chapters. Lol Kimmy’s pregnancy is going to complicate everything. Will Devlin still view her as his huntress/killer when she’s taking care of a newborn? Having experienced being the mom of a newborn myself, I don’t see it being a big turn-on for him, regardless of whether he’s the father or not. Lol I can’t wait to read more. My stomach drops every time I get a notification for a new chapter.

L_S87

The risk vs reward strategy for Kimmy from here on out is kind of crazy. She clearly exerted a level of dominance over Devlin we've not seen before, but i think she mostly did it to see how serious he was and how far she could push him. She wants him bad, but i feel like she's prioritizing fixing things with Josh over that. Confident Kimmy clearly has a better chance of keeping his love while securing permission to openly play with Devlin than passive, distraught Kimmy. She doesn't really deserve it (and she knows it), but Confident Kimmy is arrogant enough not to care, she'll simply twist the situation to gain any advantage she can in shaping her future. It will be quite the trick to get what she wants (Devlin sex and Josh's love) while also giving Josh what he wants while keeping him happy. That last part being the real trick. Because what he wants and his happiness, at this moment, are diametrically opposed. And i don't think Kimmy is going to be able to retain Josh's love if she can't figure out that conundrum. That's not to say she can't keep her marriage intact by completely dominating Josh, i think she probably could, but i don't think that would make Josh happy in the long run. He'd end up being an empty shell, which i don't think is what Kimmy wants. She wants the impossible, or at least the improbable. Especially since she went and got herself knocked up like an idiot, because having secret sex with your boss while simultaneously playing mind games with your husband clearly wasn't enough of a challenge.

CSH

Yes, well said.

L_S87

It will be interesting to see if Kimmy stays in persona, basically trusting and using Devlins assertion that Josh wants this, or if she tries something more in the middle between total domination and compassionate love. If she goes complete humiliatrix (love that term), it won't be how much Josh loves it in the moment, it will be how he reacts once the sexual glow subsides. Part of the intrigue here is that he's much more subservient and accepting in the moment, while turned on, but is much more harsh, unforgiving and downright unloving and distant after the luster is knocked off and he's had time to comprehend what it all means without lust clouding his mind.

CSH

Good scene. Evil Kimmy rules! We’ve disagreed here on how much Kimmy tells Josh. If she goes home in persona and confronts Josh with the humiliatrix of his dreams I’m not sure how much it will matter. She will likely win either informed consent or unconditional surrender. Or both.

JamesIsAsleep

I love the concept of Kimmy being dominant in this moment. The idea of Kimmy being so hot and bothered by Devlin that she needs to call the shots really hit different.

Tracey52

Great scene kt. Thanks for not making us wait too long. Great will power from Kimmy. Gets more interesting with every chapter.

Tracey52

And with Devlin’s cum on her!

L_S87

Wow. What a scene. What a conversation. Spectacular. Bravo, KT, bravo! Interesting dichotomy of Devlin getting what he wanted, and yet not. Kimmy Chang is back, but that also means she's got the strength and confidence to say no. Still, having her back also means she's one step closer to taking what she clearly still wants, even if she hates that she wants it. I like the acknowledgement between them that they both wanted the same outcome and their only real quarrel, while huge, is an argument of method and means. Devlin got impatient, Kimmy wanted Josh to agree to it on his terms to keep his psyche, and their loving marriage, intact. Devlin doesn't give two shits about Josh's confidence, he just wants his needs satisfied. I wonder how Josh will feel when Kimmy shows up as the succubus in a suit, strong and arrogant, and clearly not wearing the clothes she left in.


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