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It's even worse than we thought!
🕑 Added 2018-10-09 13:01:05 +0000 UTCThe benchmarks carried out by Principled Technologies are even more bogus than we first thought. A few viewers pointed out that the Ryzen 7 2700X was listed as tested in the “Game Mode” within the Ryzen Master software and I foolishly thought they might have just made a simple copy and paste error in their document as they would have used this mode for the 2950X. This does explain why the Threadripper CPUs were faster than the 2700X in every test.
What this means is a CCX module in the 2700X was completely disabled, essentially turning it into a quad-core. I’ve gone ahead and re-run the XMP 2933 test with Game Mode enabled and now I’m getting results that are within the margin of error to those published by Principled Technologies.
This is unbelievable, I don’t know if they are being extremely malicious or it’s just incompetence of the highest order. How do you take note of every last setting to be documented but not realize just 4-core/8-threads are active on an 8-core/16-thread processor?
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I laughed when Gamer Nexus got told by pt chef that he has been benchmarking since before he was born. What a kick in the teeth!
Stephen Spacek
Thanks Steve (cool name "Steve" by the way) for standing up to these underhanded practices. My guess is you don't like the idea of being replaced as a reviewer by Intel sponsored material. I was thinking about some of the other "techtubers" out there not speaking out or even mentioning this mayhem. I suppose they don't mind having their liberties as reviewers being slowly taken away from them. It's good to see you've got a pair and know how to use them!
It seems to me like PT is just inexperienced in game benchmarking, since apparently they've been recognized as a reputable company in the past with other things. Techgage just published their own piece on the whole thing, and I think Rob summed things up nicely. The biggest problem I have with this whole thing is Intel seeing these results and the testing methodology, and publishing it anyway, while PT may not know what they're doing with game benchmarks, Intel certainly has personnel with the expertise. Further, I don't think Intel should have published any data in the first place since, as has been pointed out, it undermines the relationships with all of the embargoed reviewers. If they wanted to have a third party do tests for validation that's perfectly reasonable, but keep the data private until embargo lift.
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