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Japanese Phonetics Episode 65—now with high quality native recordings!
🕑 Added 2019-07-12 06:00:27 +0000 UTCBibliography
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Note: In the sentence 椅子が二つあります there is no downstep between 二つ and あります, as explained in this lesson, but this isn't because there is no counter after 二つ. This is because in this sentence structure, 二つ is being used as an adverb, and when being used as an adverb, the 尾高 counters in this group, as well as 十（とお） become 平板. Thus, it isn't safe to assume that all 尾高 words always become 平板 when the following word is not a particle, but some kind of different word, such as a verb.
Good afternoon Patrons! The sixty-fifth episode of Japanese Phonetics has now been updated with high-quality native recordings! In this lesson we look at pitch-accent in two fundamental number sets, and cover some important counter-related grammar—the difference in meaning between 二つの椅子があります and 椅子が二つあります。
As always, if you have any questions or concerns with regards to this lesson, please don't hesitate to leave a comment below. Thank you very much for your continued support, and good luck with your Japanese studies!
Best from Beppu,
Dōgen
Comments
Dogen
Hi Charles! Thanks for the nice words. I'm actually asking a native I know this question right now, as I don't know the answer off the top of my head. In 椅子が二つあります, 二つ is being used as an adverb, and when it's used like this it actually becomes a 平板 word (according to the 新明解 accent dictionary), so it's actually quite hard to say. Do you mind waiting just a bit for my answer? Cheers!
Charles Dieterle
Hi Dogen, I love your content, both educational and comedic. One question semi-related to this video: in the sentence structure that you note is preferred, there is no particle between 二つ and あります as in 椅子が二つあります, and thus 二つ seems to lose its 尾高 down-step, as it has no trailing particle. Is it safe to assume that whenever an 尾高 word ends up with no trailing particle, it loses its down-step like this, effectively becoming a 平板 word in that sentence?
Dogen
Hi Vitor! This article actually has specific information about phone numbers, which is something I haven't studied explicitly, though I've always felt that phone numbers tend to act like compound words. I imagine this will answer your questions! https://gist.github.com/k3zi/3f38070efffa38db83cd5745d83b1235#numbers-数字
Vitor Hugo Pedroso Furine
Hi Dogen! Regards from Brazil! My question concerns numbers pronunciation in situations when someone asks for my number, for example. If the answer is something like this: でんわばんごうは４３２１−５６７８です. How would be the correct pronunciation? I often feel misled hearing HAchi or haCHI just to mention one example.
Dogen
Glad to be of help Nathan! You’ll probably find the next episode very helpful as well. Out later today!
Nathan Vegdahl
Oh man, this is super helpful! I learned these all before I really knew about pitch accent, and never thought to go back and check. Definitely had a few of them wrong!
